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    #31
    Originally posted by Capt.Brown View Post
    Well I understand they broke the law coming here, but ALL politicians have allowed this for 40 years, including Ronald Reagan. So now after ALL of us have benefited from them and have turned a blind eye to line our pockets we’re just going to uproot them and just kick them all out?

    If that’s what he does you will see a recession the likes this country has never seen, look around at every construction project, fast food, ranch hands, cleaning crew, maids, etc. America simply doesn’t have the labor or skilled labor and it would take decades to build that. So I hope he just deports the criminals, or ALL of us are in big trouble.
    Illegals ha e COST me. Not benefited me at all.

    let me send you my insurance bills for wrecks with uninsured better lifers…

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      #32
      Originally posted by Death from Above View Post

      Illegals ha e COST me. Not benefited me at all.

      let me send you my insurance bills for wrecks with uninsured better lifers…
      Not to mention, I can count at least 3-6 newly knocked down light poles, knocked down signs, ran into property damage, etc. a week within a 1/2-1 mile stretch of road by my house. Rinse and repeat EVERY week.

      Let’s not get into the medical costs or educational costs.
      Last edited by Greenheadless; 01-20-2025, 04:25 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SJP51 View Post

        How did I benefit from illegals and how did I line my pockets?
        x2
        Waiting for the answer.

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          #34
          An illegal just killed a BP agent in vermont...shot in the neck.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Capt.Brown View Post
            Well I understand they broke the law coming here, but ALL politicians have allowed this for 40 years, including Ronald Reagan. So now after ALL of us have benefited from them and have turned a blind eye to line our pockets we’re just going to uproot them and just kick them all out?

            If that’s what he does you will see a recession the likes this country has never seen, look around at every construction project, fast food, ranch hands, cleaning crew, maids, etc. America simply doesn’t have the labor or skilled labor and it would take decades to build that. So I hope he just deports the criminals, or ALL of us are in big trouble.
            Maybe cutting off welfare payments and other benefits to able bodied Americans would fill some of those jobs.
            Hunger is a great motivator.

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              #36
              Originally posted by curtintex View Post

              Had this happen in the early 2000s in Houston area. We were on a jobsite with a large paving contractor doing a huge concrete pour. They probably had 100 finishers onsite. I had 7-8 guys. INS pulled up with a bus and multiple cars and people scattered like ants. I had some of my guys run or hide too, who I thought were legal. When I asked them why they run, they told me that when INS rounds up, they round everybody and take them to processing. Once there, you can prove you're legal, but you're still miles away from where you were picked up and left your car and INS ain't giving you a ride back.
              I had a guy took a ride with INS from Round Rock to the processing center in San Antonio. I had to go pick him up after he showed ID. They load everybody up and sort em out later.

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                #37
                Originally posted by tvc184 View Post

                I believe that that is an incorrect belief. Well intentioned but not likely true.

                If we could wave a magic wand and deport every illegal person in this country tomorrow (and all aliens are not working but here with family), it would not have the sweeping economic problems that you envision.

                Why not?

                The US can and does issue millions of visa for aliens to work every year. I have a friend who owns a shrimp dock and does many millions of dollars a year shipping all over the country. I have asked him and he said that every year when the season is upcoming, he sends in a request for a certain number of visas to work for his company. Like he might request 25 visas be issued for aliens to work at his company.

                The different is that the workers are here legally and we know who they are. If we lost 5 million jobs next week because of deportations, the federal government could allow 5 million visas to be issued to replace those same jobs…. probably at better wages. Again, the difference is they would have to come through a port of entry with a permission slip. They would legal, vetted, have a job waiting on them and have documentation on who they are.

                Every person crossing illegally doesn’t have this magical job waiting on him to fill because an American won’t. Look at the chaos created by the many millions of people crossing the border during the Biden administration. They were not adding to the economy. They were stripping the economy in some areas like New York, as an example, because many millions of dollars had to be diverted to support these people who had no way of making a living. How much did we need them?

                It might actually improve the economy as it will be above board and not handed under the table.
                The visa program is crap! We have multiple on the visa program and you have to house them with free electricity and rent, also they are not cheap 17.00 hour minimum and they are dumb as rocks plus they pay no taxes on the visa program

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by stickerpatch59 View Post

                  Maybe cutting off welfare payments and other benefits to able bodied Americans would fill some of those jobs.
                  Hunger is a great motivator.
                  This guy should be the next President. I like how you think

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RMW View Post

                    The visa program is crap! We have multiple on the visa program and you have to house them with free electricity and rent, also they are not cheap 17.00 hour minimum and they are dumb as rocks plus they pay no taxes on the visa program
                    But that wasn’t what I answered.

                    It was said that construction jobs, etc., wouldn’t have workers.

                    If a contractor is paying only $17 an hour at a construction site, that’s a bargain.

                    I discount any claim that the economy is headed for the toilet because we won’t have enough maids or hamburger flippers at McDonald’s.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RMW View Post

                      The visa program is crap! We have multiple on the visa program and you have to house them with free electricity and rent, also they are not cheap 17.00 hour minimum and they are dumb as rocks plus they pay no taxes on the visa program
                      What exactly do you mean by they pay no taxes? I know of a person that comes every year on the visa worker program and works for landscapers/yard crews. he files an income tax return. he also pays his own “room and board”.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Capt.Brown View Post
                        So what about all the illegals that are here but aren’t criminals? I would say the vast majority of those aren’t criminals.
                        They're illegal, therefore they're criminals

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by tvc184 View Post

                          Not really.

                          Congress might pass such a law but it would have to be strongly worded.

                          That will not happen.
                          And so a big ol circle cluck is formed.

                          Make Mexico Great!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Duckologist View Post

                            They're illegal, therefore they're criminals
                            This is what I cannot understand why people say “Well, not all of them are criminals”!!!!
                            If they came over without going through the proper channels, they are CRIMINALS!!! Period!!!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by sqiggy View Post

                              This is what I cannot understand why people say “Well, not all of them are criminals”!!!!
                              If they came over without going through the proper channels, they are CRIMINALS!!! Period!!!
                              Thats the problem. Bleeding hearts believing they are lookin for a better life. They just bring their 3rd world dump ways here & and want us to change. Should be popping caps in them as soon as they touch US land.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by dukfvr View Post

                                thats the problem. Bleeding hearts believing they are lookin for a better life. They just bring their 3rd world dump ways here & and want us to change. Should be popping caps in them as soon as they touch us land.
                                amen!!!

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