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Originally posted by Clay C View PostSolid Convention overall. Gotta disagree on the Amber Rose love though. That's not the kind of person I want my reps associating with. I get it, she has a lot of followers and could bring a lot of votes, but you can't put politics in front of everything. She stands for things I'm just not willing to bend on.
What does her politics have to do with putting her in front of anything?
Bill Clinton didn’t let a skirt walk past him without at least a thought of hitting on her and apparently was successful many times. When you look up the word adultery as a sin, there is a bio of Clinton. He signed the assault weapon ban. He dialed up military actions to take heat off his transgressions in the media.
What if Bill Clinton came out tomorrow and said, I have looked into this election and I stand firmly behind Trump!?
Does thinking that is great and hopefully it will help win the election, mean that I support his lifestyle? Does it mean that I like his prior stupid decisions?
Or perhaps it means that a person who I have vehemently disagreed with on policy and personal life, has politically come over to my beliefs on politics only and I appreciate him trying to get Trump elected? I don’t have to agree with anything that Clinton has stood for or his personal choices to be glad that he has changed his political stripes.
Does saying that Amber Rose gave a great speech mean that I am now thinking of getting a tattoo on my forehead, going to start watching rap videos and change my sexual preferences?
In my opinion it only means that she gave a great speech and nothing more. It doesn’t put politics in front of anything.
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God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
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Originally posted by tvc184 View Post
Serious questions, what does her lifestyle have to do with her endorsing Trump?
What does her politics have to do with putting her in front of anything?
Bill Clinton didn’t let a skirt walk past him without at least a thought of hitting on her and apparently was successful many times. When you look up the word adultery as a sin, there is a bio of Clinton. He signed the assault weapon ban. He dialed up military actions to take heat off his transgressions in the media.
What if Bill Clinton came out tomorrow and said, I have looked into this election and I stand firmly behind Trump!?
Does thinking that is great and hopefully it will help win the election, mean that I support his lifestyle? Does it mean that I like his prior stupid decisions?
Or perhaps it means that a person who I have vehemently disagreed with on policy and personal life, has politically come over to my beliefs on politics only and I appreciate him trying to get Trump elected? I don’t have to agree with anything that Clinton has stood for or his personal choices to be glad that he has changed his political stripes.
Does saying that Amber Rose gave a great speech mean that I am now thinking of getting a tattoo on my forehead, going to start watching rap videos and change my sexual preferences?
In my opinion it only means that she gave a great speech and nothing more. It doesn’t put politics in front of anything.
I'm fine with her liking and endorsing Trump.
I don't think that liking her speech means you endorse her lifestyle or that you are considering adopting it. That is ridiculous.
I simply mean what I said. I don't really like people who sell ****ography, organize "Slut walks", think Satanism is okay, and champion abortion being around people who are supposed to represent me and "conservatism" (whatever that means anymore). I don't think it's a good thing to be associated with people like that. Let's not also forget that endorsements can come with promises.
I wasn't attacking anyone here who liked the speech. I just don't think her appearance there is necessarily something to celebrate. If you disagree, that's fine.
I'm not even condemning her. I'm sure her heart is in the right place and who knows what set her on the path she has been on in her life. She could certainly just be a damaged person who hasn't yet seen the light.Last edited by Clay C; 07-18-2024, 01:49 PM.
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Originally posted by Clay C View Post
That is a lot to unpack.
I'm fine with her liking and endorsing Trump.
I don't think that liking her speech means you endorse her lifestyle or that you are considering adopting it. That is ridiculous.
I simply mean what I said. I don't really like people who sell ****ography, organize "Slut walks", think Satanism is okay, and champion abortion being around people who are supposed to represent me and "conservatism" (whatever that means anymore). I don't think it's a good thing to be associated with people like that. Let's not also forget that endorsements can come with promises.
I wasn't attacking anyone here who liked the speech. I just don't think her appearance there is necessarily something to celebrate. If you disagree, that's fine.
I'm not even condemning her. I'm sure her heart is in the right place and who knows what set her on the path she has been on in her life. She could certainly just be a damaged person who hasn't yet seen the light.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostGod used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostGod used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostGod used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostGod used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
Spot on. If she can have an awakening and reach others to do the same then we all benefit.
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Originally posted by Clay C View Post
Good post and i very well may eat crow in the future if she starts to change her ways. I hope that's the case.
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