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    #46
    Originally posted by Clay C View Post
    Solid Convention overall. Gotta disagree on the Amber Rose love though. That's not the kind of person I want my reps associating with. I get it, she has a lot of followers and could bring a lot of votes, but you can't put politics in front of everything. She stands for things I'm just not willing to bend on.
    Her beliefs have the possibility to change as well.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Clay C View Post
      Solid Convention overall. Gotta disagree on the Amber Rose love though. That's not the kind of person I want my reps associating with. I get it, she has a lot of followers and could bring a lot of votes, but you can't put politics in front of everything. She stands for things I'm just not willing to bend on.
      Serious questions, what does her lifestyle have to do with her endorsing Trump?

      What does her politics have to do with putting her in front of anything?

      Bill Clinton didn’t let a skirt walk past him without at least a thought of hitting on her and apparently was successful many times. When you look up the word adultery as a sin, there is a bio of Clinton. He signed the assault weapon ban. He dialed up military actions to take heat off his transgressions in the media.

      What if Bill Clinton came out tomorrow and said, I have looked into this election and I stand firmly behind Trump!?

      Does thinking that is great and hopefully it will help win the election, mean that I support his lifestyle? Does it mean that I like his prior stupid decisions?

      Or perhaps it means that a person who I have vehemently disagreed with on policy and personal life, has politically come over to my beliefs on politics only and I appreciate him trying to get Trump elected? I don’t have to agree with anything that Clinton has stood for or his personal choices to be glad that he has changed his political stripes.

      Does saying that Amber Rose gave a great speech mean that I am now thinking of getting a tattoo on my forehead, going to start watching rap videos and change my sexual preferences?

      In my opinion it only means that she gave a great speech and nothing more. It doesn’t put politics in front of anything.

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        #48
        God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.

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          #49
          Originally posted by tvc184 View Post

          Serious questions, what does her lifestyle have to do with her endorsing Trump?

          What does her politics have to do with putting her in front of anything?

          Bill Clinton didn’t let a skirt walk past him without at least a thought of hitting on her and apparently was successful many times. When you look up the word adultery as a sin, there is a bio of Clinton. He signed the assault weapon ban. He dialed up military actions to take heat off his transgressions in the media.

          What if Bill Clinton came out tomorrow and said, I have looked into this election and I stand firmly behind Trump!?

          Does thinking that is great and hopefully it will help win the election, mean that I support his lifestyle? Does it mean that I like his prior stupid decisions?

          Or perhaps it means that a person who I have vehemently disagreed with on policy and personal life, has politically come over to my beliefs on politics only and I appreciate him trying to get Trump elected? I don’t have to agree with anything that Clinton has stood for or his personal choices to be glad that he has changed his political stripes.

          Does saying that Amber Rose gave a great speech mean that I am now thinking of getting a tattoo on my forehead, going to start watching rap videos and change my sexual preferences?

          In my opinion it only means that she gave a great speech and nothing more. It doesn’t put politics in front of anything.
          That is a lot to unpack.

          I'm fine with her liking and endorsing Trump.

          I don't think that liking her speech means you endorse her lifestyle or that you are considering adopting it. That is ridiculous.

          I simply mean what I said. I don't really like people who sell ****ography, organize "Slut walks", think Satanism is okay, and champion abortion being around people who are supposed to represent me and "conservatism" (whatever that means anymore). I don't think it's a good thing to be associated with people like that. Let's not also forget that endorsements can come with promises.

          I wasn't attacking anyone here who liked the speech. I just don't think her appearance there is necessarily something to celebrate. If you disagree, that's fine.

          I'm not even condemning her. I'm sure her heart is in the right place and who knows what set her on the path she has been on in her life. She could certainly just be a damaged person who hasn't yet seen the light.
          Last edited by Clay C; 07-18-2024, 01:49 PM.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Man View Post

            Her beliefs have the possibility to change as well.
            Most certainly and i hope they do.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Clay C View Post

              That is a lot to unpack.

              I'm fine with her liking and endorsing Trump.

              I don't think that liking her speech means you endorse her lifestyle or that you are considering adopting it. That is ridiculous.

              I simply mean what I said. I don't really like people who sell ****ography, organize "Slut walks", think Satanism is okay, and champion abortion being around people who are supposed to represent me and "conservatism" (whatever that means anymore). I don't think it's a good thing to be associated with people like that. Let's not also forget that endorsements can come with promises.

              I wasn't attacking anyone here who liked the speech. I just don't think her appearance there is necessarily something to celebrate. If you disagree, that's fine.

              I'm not even condemning her. I'm sure her heart is in the right place and who knows what set her on the path she has been on in her life. She could certainly just be a damaged person who hasn't yet seen the light.
              What Shane said.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Shane View Post
                God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
                That’s the best thing I’ve read in some time. I’m glad (even more than normal) that you posted today, sir.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Shane View Post
                  God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
                  Good post and i very well may eat crow in the future if she starts to change her ways. I hope that's the case.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Shane View Post
                    God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.
                    👍👍👍

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                      #55
                      The Detroit preacher was great.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Shane View Post
                        God used a LOT of really messed up people in the Bible to do great things through. If He can use King David, Saul(Paul), Rahab the Prostitute, Amber Rose or the Teamsters guy or Trump or me or you to reach somebody else for good in some way, then that's a good thing. I don't think much of Amber Rose, but if she is in the process of seeing the light in politics and, hopefully, all other things, and if she can cause others like her to start moving toward the right direction gradually, then she's 100% welcome in my book. That doesn't mean that I endorse her or anything of the sort. But I'm glad they invited her, and I thought her speech was a good thing.


                        Spot on. If she can have an awakening and reach others to do the same then we all benefit.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Clay C View Post

                          Good post and i very well may eat crow in the future if she starts to change her ways. I hope that's the case.
                          I wasn’t trying to get you to eat crow. I was just offering my perspective on it. She may decide to dive head first into everything bad. But if her little turn for the better, even if temporary, turns someone else around for good then it’s still a win. I’m just saying that God can do great things through messed up people. He does that all the time. It’s not like he has any other kind of people to work with.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Shane View Post
                            It’s not like he has any other kind of people to work with.
                            Truth spoken right here!

                            Thankfully, His Grace is not limited by our need for it!

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by LWC View Post

                              This is like rastlin’. Hulk Hogan and Macho Man didn’t really hate each other. All part of the show to keep folks distracted.
                              ****, I didn’t know it was really going to be rastlin’ lol

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                                #60
                                I’m just going to say it, between the clown show that is Hulk Hogan and DJT walking around with a too-bright cod piece on his ear, the RNC is starting to look like circus. I’m not sure I can continue to watch.

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