LIV Golf

[LWC]

I was. Sorry bro.

No worries. I had to look it up. DP in the DP Tour stands for Dubai Ports Authority owned by the ruling royal family of Dubai. Sounds like more Arab oil money. PGA seems to be ok with this partnership.

[LWC]

Has anybody seen if the caddies are getting anything different in LIV? I know not taking care of their caddies has been an issue with the PGA for years. I am curious if they are offering a better package for the caddies and how that might also sway some golfers to LIV for a better working relationship with out it coming out of their pocket.

Haven't seen all the details but heard they were taking care of all of their travel and hotel expenses.

[snappertapper]

Has anybody seen if the caddies are getting anything different in LIV? I know not taking care of their caddies has been an issue with the PGA for years. I am curious if they are offering a better package for the caddies and how that might also sway some golfers to LIV for a better working relationship with out it coming out of their pocket.

On the broadcast this morning they said that standard percentages apply based on what they had heard.

The caddies are going to love it.

[Dale Moser]

SO the PGA suspended all the players taking part in the LIV? PGA acting like they own people

No, they’re acting like they have a business to run.


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[texan4ut]

I doubt the LIV will last more than a couple of years. I can remember when there were USGA events besides just the US Open and there were PGA events. Eventually TV and prize money won out. If the PGA doesn't allow players from the LIV to play in PGA events such as the PGA, Masters, Players etc. it won't be long some of those guys may come back. Plus if the LIV is dominated every week by a few players it will get boring quick.

[Hunting4fun]

Look who showed up in the LIV promo video just released. May not mean anything but interesting.

[Andrew Aguechee]

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...olf-tournament

The Tour doesn't have the moral high ground like they think they do. How did they get their start? They spun off from club professionals several decades ago with Jack Nicklaus helping drive it. What is the pay disparity between club pros and Tour pros? How are Phil, DJ, etc any different than what Jack did? How long did it take the Tour to embrace drug testing? How often do you hear of any violations? It's still a country club mentality and the good ol boy network.

Tour pros look squeaky clean on TV - behind the scenes - different story. Gambling, alcohol, drugs, extra-marital affairs, etc .... these guys aren't boy scouts. They should stop with the innuendo about being morally above the LVI.

No human is perfect. I know of no "boy scouts" or anyone claiming to be. One can always point to some bad deeds by any person. Only Christ was perfect. However, those actions that you list do not even compare to the Saudis including:
1. Routinely using torture as punishment
2. No free speech and jail terms for any protest
3. Total discrimination against women
4. Religious persecution, particularly Christians
5. 37 executions in a single day (many for political reasons)
6. Support of terrorism across the globe (and likely participation in 911 attacks)

These guys are selling out and playing for the most despicable people on the plant. To even attempt to compare the start of the PGA to LIV is a total red herring.

[LWC]

No human is perfect. I know of no "boy scouts" or anyone claiming to be. One can always point to some bad deeds by any person. Only Christ was perfect. However, those actions that you list do not even compare to the Saudis including:
1. Routinely using torture as punishment
2. No free speech and jail terms for any protest
3. Total discrimination against women
4. Religious persecution, particularly Christians
5. 37 executions in a single day (many for political reasons)
6. Support of terrorism across the globe (and likely participation in 911 attacks)

These guys are selling out and playing for the most despicable people on the plant. To even attempt to compare the start of the PGA to LIV is a total red herring.

Take out the 37 executions and replace women with men and you pretty much have described our federal government.

[gspbrad]

I doubt the LIV will last more than a couple of years. I can remember when there were USGA events besides just the US Open and there were PGA events. Eventually TV and prize money won out. If the PGA doesn't allow players from the LIV to play in PGA events such as the PGA, Masters, Players etc. it won't be long some of those guys may come back. Plus if the LIV is dominated every week by a few players it will get boring quick.

The biggest challenge they face - you hit on - TV. What network is going to broadcast these events? Corporate sponsor advertising and prime time televised coverage. Got to get it in the force fed conga line to be successful ....

[gspbrad]

Take out the 37 executions and replace women with men and you pretty much have described our federal government.

I thought the same thing lol .....

[snappertapper]

Some of yall are forgetting how much $ the saudi's have. They don't need for this to be profitable.

[Mossback]

Some of yall are forgetting how much $ the saudi's have. They don't need for this to be profitable.

especially with $120 oil, they have an endless amount of money.

[Hunting4fun]

If anyone cares the first round is streaming now from London. The live leaderboard is kinda cool since it was a shotgun start.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exyLWw5pq8"]June 9: LIV Golf Invitational London - Round 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[Hunting4fun]

The biggest challenge they face - you hit on - TV. What network is going to broadcast these events? Corporate sponsor advertising and prime time televised coverage. Got to get it in the force fed conga line to be successful ....

The first round is on right now. It's streaming on youtube.

[Dale Moser]

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...olf-tournament

The Tour doesn't have the moral high ground like they think they do. How did they get their start? They spun off from club professionals several decades ago with Jack Nicklaus helping drive it. What is the pay disparity between club pros and Tour pros? How are Phil, DJ, etc any different than what Jack did? How long did it take the Tour to embrace drug testing? How often do you hear of any violations? It's still a country club mentality and the good ol boy network.

Tour pros look squeaky clean on TV - behind the scenes - different story. Gambling, alcohol, drugs, extra-marital affairs, etc .... these guys aren't boy scouts. They should stop with the innuendo about being morally above the LVI.

Lets stop comparing partying to mass murder.