Who has right of way?

[tdwinklr]

I may have misspoke. This is not a hard fast rule for intersections. Situations vary in complexity. For the most part traffic lights give right of way authority but there are other rules in play depending on the situation. In the OP's scenario, it seems both have green lights/arrows and since the driver making the right turn has no obligation to make sure the way is clear of oncoming traffic as the one making a u turn does, he has the right of way.

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4-way stops specifically have the right-of-way rule. Or whoever gets there first, leaves first. But if there is a car on your right and you both arrive at the same time, car on your right leaves first.

[TxBowHntr]

I am assuming the guy who is turning right has a red light and is essentially turning Right on red. Therefore if a collision occurs, and U-Turns are allowed, he would be at fault. Ultimately he has a red light and can only turn right if traffic is clear.

[ThisLadyHunts]

I've done a little research of the Texas Transportation Code which is the definitive source of the traffic laws in the state of Texas and, if I am interpreting it correctly, here's what it says:

However, before I do, here are two things to note:
1) Nowhere in the Code is there a reference specifically to "u-turns;" and
2) for the purpose of this discussion, a u-turn is nothing more than two left turns. (This, according to my HS drivers ed teacher, Mr. Dickinson, who loved his momma, Texas, and George Straight...so you know he's legit.)

According to the Texas Transportation Code, Title 7. Vehicles and Traffic; Subtitle C. Rules of the Road; Chapter 545. Operation and Movement of Vehicles;

Sec. 545.152. VEHICLE TURNING LEFT. To turn left at an intersection or into an alley or private road or driveway, an operator shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle that is approaching from the opposite direction and that is in the intersection or in such proximity to the intersection as to be an immediate hazard.

The reference to "practicable" turns appears in Section 545.101 but I think it's intuitive and unnecessary to repeat here.

[rolylane6]

4-way stops specifically have the right-of-way rule. Or whoever gets there first, leaves first. But if there is a car on your right and you both arrive at the same time, car on your right leaves first.

Correct. But as I stated, that is not a hard fast rule for all intersections. Signaled intersection are governed by different rules. In the OP's senario, that rule does not apply.

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[rolylane6]

I am assuming the guy who is turning right has a red light and is essentially turning Right on red. Therefore if a collision occurs, and U-Turns are allowed, he would be at fault. Ultimately he has a red light and can only turn right if traffic is clear.

There is no assumption necessary. The OP's scenario shows the right turn driver has a green arrow.

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[rolylane6]

Here's a good link to a law firms analysis of u turns
https://oharelawfirm.com/dallas-pers...20the%20driver.

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[rolylane6]

2) for the purpose of this discussion, a u-turn is nothing more than [B]two left turns.

I was thinking about this statement and realized it may be a very accurate way of describing it. And as such, the first left is authorized by the green arrow. The second left however, would be against the red light of the opposing traffic, therefore, would require yielding to the driver making a right turn on a favorable light (green arrow).
There, clear as mud!



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[ThisLadyHunts]

I was thinking about this statement and realized it may be a very accurate way of describing it. And as such, the first left is authorized by the green arrow. The second left however, would be against the red light of the opposing traffic, therefore, would require yielding to the driver making a right turn on a favorable light (green arrow).
There, clear as mud!



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You sound just like Mr. Dickinson!


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[tfrye]

your threads never seem to amaze me . Knew I would find at least one diagram! haha

[rolylane6]

You sound just like Mr. Dickinson!


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Well then, Mr Dickinson must be a fine, fine man and..... a little off his rocker[emoji2957]

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[ThisLadyHunts]

Well then, Mr Dickinson must be a fine, fine man and..... a little off his rocker[emoji2957]

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I don’t know about that, but I’ll tell you this: he had all the girls drooling over him!


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[tvc184]

I've done a little research of the Texas Transportation Code which is the definitive source of the traffic laws in the state of Texas and, if I am interpreting it correctly, here's what it says:

However, before I do, here are two things to note:
1) Nowhere in the Code is there a reference specifically to "u-turns;" and
2) for the purpose of this discussion, a u-turn is nothing more than two left turns. (This, according to my HS drivers ed teacher, Mr. Dickinson, who loved his momma, Texas, and George Straight...so you know he's legit.)

According to the Texas Transportation Code, Title 7. Vehicles and Traffic; Subtitle C. Rules of the Road; Chapter 545. Operation and Movement of Vehicles;

Sec. 545.152. VEHICLE TURNING LEFT. To turn left at an intersection or into an alley or private road or driveway, an operator shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle that is approaching from the opposite direction and that is in the intersection or in such proximity to the intersection as to be an immediate hazard.

The reference to "practicable" turns appears in Section 545.101 but I think it's intuitive and unnecessary to repeat here.

Wrong.

It is specifically mentioned.

[ctom87]

your threads never seem to amaze me . Knew I would find at least one diagram! haha

The way it is looking i might need to make another...

[ctom87]

Thats a lot of lights for a right turn arrow.

[WRasco]

Pretty sure you have it exactly backwards. Driver to the right has the right of way. Same way on the water. Boat that can see the green running light of another boat has the right of way and the green light is on the starboard side of a boat.

I stand corrected.

"If two vehicles come to a stop at a four-way stop at the same time and are next to each other, the right-of-way goes to the person who is on the right. If three vehicles arrive at the same time, the car furthest left should continue to yield until both of the other cars to the right of them have passed."

(Which is why you don't rely on memory.)