Who has right of way?

[ctom87]

Scenario... two streets intersect, a 3 lane each direction and a 2 lane each direction. At the intersection, the left turn lane of the 3 lane has a "left on arrow" sign. The two lane has a lane dedicated for right turns only. When the left turn lane has a green arrow to turn left, the right turn lane has a green arrow for turning right.

From a legal standpoint, if a car in the left turn lane does a U turn, and a car in the right turn lane turns right, and both have arrows, and both are completely following the law, if those two cars collide, who would be legally at fault?

[Big Lee]

The one with bigger tires wins the battle.

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[GarGuy]

There is no conflict There unless one of the vehicles crosses to the second lane which would be a violation . Maybe I missed something?

[ctom87]

There is no conflict There unless one of the vehicles crosses to the second lane which would be a violation . Maybe I missed something?

To clarify you mean the vehicle making the U turn would occupy the left lane and the guy turning right would get the right lane?

[tvc184]

Scenario... two streets intersect, a 3 lane each direction and a 2 lane each direction. At the intersection, the left turn lane of the 3 lane has a "left on arrow" sign. The two lane has a lane dedicated for right turns only. When the left turn lane has a green arrow to turn left, the right turn lane has a green arrow for turning right.

From a legal standpoint, if a car in the left turn lane does a U turn, and a car in the right turn lane turns right, and both have arrows, and both are completely following the law, if those two cars collide, who would be legally at fault?

You lost me.

[SmTx]

Whoever has the bigger truck

[Kevin]

Nevermind.. so both the person making a right and the person making a u-turn have an arrow? Are you sure u-turns are allowed at that intersection?

[scott1022]

Who has right of way?

A uturn is most likely not allowed at the intersection that you just described.

A green arrow for a left turn does not mean a uturn has the right of way. I would put my money on the the right turning vehicle has the right of way for that reason.

[tvc184]

A uturn is most likely not allowed at the intersection that you just described.

A green arrow for a left turn does not mean a uturn has the right of way. I would put my money on the the right turning vehicle has the right of way for that reason.

True, if there is a sign posted prohibiting it.

[ctom87]

The place where the u turn is being done is where I turn left to go to work every day. There is nothing preventing a u turn. Just says LEFT on arrow. Specifies left. Is a u turn a left turn because the direction is left the whole time.

[rolylane6]

Here's a good article that I believe explains that the vehicle making the right turn would have the right of way as they would be considered oncoming traffic. If turning right on a red they would yield.

https://www.houstoncaraccidentlawyers.org/texas-u-turn-law/

From the link: Making a U-Turn is not illegal but you are only allowed to make U-Turns if you can see at least 500 feet in the direction of oncoming traffic. In some cities making u-turns is not allowed on some streets. They usually erect “no u-turn” signs so that motorists do not get confused. You should remember that when turning left you must yield to oncoming traffic. However, you have the right of way if someone is trying to turn right at a red light onto the same road you are making the u-turn onto. Contact an experienced attorney to learn more about u turns in Texas.


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[tvc184]

Scenario... two streets intersect, a 3 lane each direction and a 2 lane each direction. At the intersection, the left turn lane of the 3 lane has a "left on arrow" sign. The two lane has a lane dedicated for right turns only. When the left turn lane has a green arrow to turn left, the right turn lane has a green arrow for turning right.

From a legal standpoint, if a car in the left turn lane does a U turn, and a car in the right turn lane turns right, and both have arrows, and both are completely following the law, if those two cars collide, who would be legally at fault?

I think I have it.

If I do, your explanation of the number of lanes seems mostly irrelevant. It could be a 2/3 lane intersection, 3/3, 2/2, etc.

The car doing a U-turn from the left turn only lane, has a car that is to his left. That vehicle has a right turn only arrow at the same time the other driver has a left turn only arrow. So if the left turn driver turns left onto the other road that is intersecting his and the right time driver turns into his lane (following the arrow), there will be no conflict.

Maybe directions would be easier to explain. A driver in a northbound left turn only lane has an arrow to turn west. A driver in the eastbound lane has a right turn arrow to turn south. (This would be much easier with pictures).

I would say that they car doing the U-turn is at fault. TC Section 545.103 says that you can’t make a turn if it is not safe to do so (quoting law….unless movement can be made safely). I think it is pretty clear that the U-turn driver is definitely at fault.

The question becomes, is the other driver also at fault under the same law? In a lawsuit the U-turn driver’s lawyer will argue that the law applies equally to both so his client is no more at fault than the other. That is what lawyers do and are higher to do.

For a police officer’s criminal standpoint, the guy turning right on an arrow clearly had the right of way. He has to legally to yield to no one and he did not move into another person’s lane. The U-turn driver cannot say the same thing. He is moving from his lane in to another person’s lane when that person has control of that lane. Simply put, the right turn driver has no obligation to yield to anyone but the U-turn driver have the legal obligation to yield and the legal obligation to not make a turn when unsafe.

If I was working that accident seen, the U-turn driver would get the citation and the right turn only driver would not be charged with anything.




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[Pony1971]

The right turn has the right of way to the nearest right lane on a protected arrow.

[tvc184]

The place where the u turn is being done is where I turn left to go to work every day. There is nothing preventing a u turn. Just says LEFT on arrow. Specifies left. Is a u turn a left turn because the direction is left the whole time.

Yes, that is the way I finally comprehend it.

My explanation above is to that scenario.

[GarGuy]

The place where the u turn is being done is where I turn left to go to work every day. There is nothing preventing a u turn. Just says LEFT on arrow. Specifies left. Is a u turn a left turn because the direction is left the whole time.

In your pic there is no conflict. It is illegal for you to cross a lane and turn into the next lane.