Open Carry ??

[Mike D]

Coming from a standpoint of 100% curiosity, no judgment or criticism here, for those of you who do, why do you open carry?

Comfort and access.


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[Mike D]

I like the open carry law.

It allows me to wear OWB with a shirt/T-shirt covering it. If I happen to accidentally flash some one, I have not broken any laws. Or even if a corner of the holster shows or I print. Wasn’t allowed before.

I didn’t even like/or would carry until I could use an OWB.

Accidental exposure was never against the law, even before open carry.


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[glen]

I’ve never met a cop that open carries except one rookie we had that is not employed anymore. I could care less what people do but will never open carry. Brings attention to yourself. No advantage to it IMO. I’ve carried a gun my entire adult life and can never remember when open carry would have any advantage

[SmTx]

I wish I snapped a picture of the guy I saw open carrying in Academy this week.

Picture a nerdy all hat and no cattle type of guy and that was him. 1911 on a leg holster that was bouncing all around when he walked.

[jefandaward]

I wish I snapped a picture of the guy I saw open carrying in Academy this week.

Picture a nerdy all hat and no cattle type of guy and that was him. 1911 on a leg holster that was bouncing all around when he walked.

Was he at Academy buying 6.5 Creedmoor ammo?

[RJH1]

Was he at Academy buying 6.5 Creedmoor ammo?

That is a sweet burn

[SmTx]

Was he at Academy buying 6.5 Creedmoor ammo?

Maybe. He was buying ammo

[mchildress]

What if he was gay, and was open carrying at a bakery, and just wanted a wedding cake made? Can the owner still refuse service?

I was thinking the same thing. Just tell them your gay.

[DRT]

Comfort and access.


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Well put but I would add security. The retention holster I use for outside the waist band holds my weapon better.

Gary

[Mike D]

Well put but I would add security. The retention holster I use for outside the waist band holds my weapon better.

Gary

True.


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[flywise]

I think the better argument would be, why do I have to take a class to gain permission to carry?

[Loneaggie]

Thread summary: anyone can ask you to leave their property sign or no sign, a lot of people didn’t know the concealed only laws and fewer understand open, some people don’t like Whataburger... for that last group, I35 runs n/s and 20 e/w get on either one and keep going

[Capp35]

Accidental exposure was never against the law, even before open carry.


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You missed my point talking about OWB carry.
If you ever have carried that way, you would understand that sometimes you can have your shirt accidentally pull up over the grip without realizing it.
Point being, current law allows more room for this kind of carry.

[tvc184]

I beg to differ on the print issue.
If you could make out the outline, it was illegal.
Also most of the time you can see the tip of my holster. That was illegal also.

Correct.

The issue is the definition of a concealed handgun. That has been removed from the law with the switch to an LTC instead of the CHL. Below is the old definition copied from the previous law.

"Printing" is a loosely used term and is not in any law. It depends on what a person is talking about by using the term. It is merely a bulge under a shirt or at the waistband then it is not illegal. It could be a cell phone, Buck Folding Hunter knife in a sheath, etc.

If you call tell that it was a handgun, covered or not, it is not "concealed".

Why?

TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE

§411.171. DEFINITIONS. In this subchapter:
.....
(3) “Concealed handgun” means a handgun, the presence of which is
not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person.

If a reasonable person could easily (openly discernible) tell it was a handgun then it was not concealed per the law and at that time, unlawful.

[tvc184]

Accidental exposure was never against the law, even before open carry.


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Also correct.

The law said that it was (and still is) a crime to "intentionally" expose a handgun while carrying under a license.

That law is still in effect however and as you are referring to, in 2015 for the purposes of open carry they added, "It is an exception to the application of this subsection that the handgun was partially or wholly visible but was carried in a shoulder or belt holster by the license holder".

So the law hasn't changed on intentional (not accidental) exposing a handgun as a crime unless it is in a belt or shoulder holster.