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    #76
    I see many saying I hope it fails and many saying it is a done deal.


    Is it really a done deal?

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      #77
      I may be one of the few but I think the US is lacking public transportation. I'd take the rail to make it to my parents house in half or less time it would take me to drive. Heck I could have a lease with friends down there hop the train and ride with them to it. Cut 4-5 hours off the trip for way less then it would cost to drive.
      So I take it that you don't own property or if you do that you don't care what happens to it?

      The idea of people losing property that has been in their families for generations to help people like you shave some time off of their travels pizzes me off.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Tryton View Post
        Go to this website. You can zoom in to each county to see it's path.

        https://www.texascentral.com/alignment-maps/
        wow! I know some folks that are gonna get screwed. I just closed on some property that will be within a few miles and across a lake from it. May or may not help me

        Originally posted by Chef View Post
        The information on this site is outdated and incorrect. This original path created in 2014 was west of our property. The current route is approx. 1.5 miles east of its original path.
        from the link....

        These maps reflect ‘Preferred Build Alternative A’ as outlined by the Federal Railroad Administration in their Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS), released on December 15th, 2017.

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          #79
          Thing is... my husband just told me about the "high speed rail" in California. They've been building it for years and still cannot use any of it. None of the overpasses have been developed and it is billions of dollars over budget. Billions. And --- if and when it is completed - the technology will be so out of date they won't be able to use it.

          Who's to keep that from happening to our state?

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            #80
            Originally posted by Quackerbox View Post
            wow! I know some folks that are gonna get screwed. I just closed on some property that will be within a few miles and across a lake from it. May or may not help me



            from the link....

            These maps reflect ‘Preferred Build Alternative A’ as outlined by the Federal Railroad Administration in their Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS), released on December 15th, 2017.
            Congrats on the property Quackerbox. I have a place on the lake off 1512 and hunt outside of Marquez. Maybe I will see you around.

            I know the route has changed a few times. I can't keep up with it. I don't know why they can't run the thing along the freeway corridor so it doesn't make since to me.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Tryton View Post
              Congrats on the property Quackerbox. I have a place on the lake off 1512 and hunt outside of Marquez. Maybe I will see you around.

              I know the route has changed a few times. I can't keep up with it. I don't know why they can't run the thing along the freeway corridor so it doesn't make since to me.
              Weekend place once we get something built. But the amount of wildlife Ive seen sure has me thinking about doing some exploring

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                #82
                The actual route has yet to be produced. I have 4 different versions of the map(s) and how it will or will not affect our property. Regardless of the route (based on existing versions of the maps) we will be within the 2 mile range of this thing and will be directly affected.

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                  #83
                  Can anyone tell us what the federal restriction regarding speed of rail traffic is??? We were told last night that this thing can run in the 300 mph range but the federal regulation would not allow any rail based system to exceed 150mph.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by afishinman14 View Post
                    I have to agree that it is inevitable. Cities are expanding. And businesses are requiring more and more travel. To be able to sit on a train, keep complete phone signal, and work while you travel will be and advantage to businesses. So I'm sure those same businesses are pushing for it.

                    I also think it will be quicker than flying. Probably less security than on a plane. Just take the train station in Chicago for example. Not nearly the same security as an airport.

                    We're also not taking about 2 hour train rides here. We're talking about 45 minutes from Houston to Dallas. And even less from Houston to San Antonio or Dallas to Austin.

                    It sucks for landowners. I don't personally own land. But dream of doing so one day, through my own hard work and discipline with my money. And I would be ****** if they did this to me. Especially knowing they aren't going to compensate nearly enough for the loss of income, land, and shear inconvenience

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                    Which is BS level 10 because you know they won't be cheap on anything else. Their buddies will get contracts for hundreds on millions (maybe billions).

                    When I said private earlier I meant if a private construction company built this it would be built for 1/2 the cost, maybe way less than that. It's amazing how a government building takes 3-10 times as long to build and costs 2-5 times more. Same with roads etc.

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                      #85
                      How alarmingly similar this is to the situation on the Gold Coast with the hoax cruise ship terminal proposal and associated casino rort. Every Australian sh...


                      I think of this everytime it gets brought up.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Brown View Post
                        I see many saying I hope it fails and many saying it is a done deal.
                        Is it really a done deal?
                        They are saying you can't defeat the money grab. It will be just like light rail in Austin. Voters vote it down and Bam! right back on the ballot. Vote it down and right back..The second it passes by 1 vote and no one ever gets another say in the matter because "the voters HAVE spoken dang it!"

                        Originally posted by Dusty Britches View Post
                        Thing is... my husband just told me about the "high speed rail" in California. They've been building it for years and still cannot use any of it. None of the overpasses have been developed and it is billions of dollars over budget. Billions. And --- if and when it is completed - the technology will be so out of date they won't be able to use it.

                        Who's to keep that from happening to our state?
                        You could bet ever dime you own this will happen when it passes here. I'll give anyone 2 to 1 odds also. They know they're low balling as best they can to get it to pass. They know it will go WAY over budget. They don't care because it's tax payer money and they just want their part of it.

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                          #87
                          If they were going to pay me fair value, I’d just buy a new place and move on with it. It’s inconvenient, but that’s just life sometimes.

                          If they’re not paying fair value, I’d be peeved. Hopefully that won’t be the case.

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                            #88
                            For your reading pleasure....

                            FRA signed the Draft EIS on December 15, 2017 and it was published in the Federal Register on December 22, 2017.  The Draft EIS analyzed six end-to-end Build Alternatives (Alternatives A–F) as well as the No-Build Alternative.

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                              #89
                              In regards to the cost from https://www.texascentral.com/facts/

                              Ticket prices will be based on a variable pricing model, with consumer demand driving price fluctuations. Factors like how far in advance you purchase, what day, what time of day, which discounts you are eligible for, etc., will all influence the price. Furthermore, there may be different classes of service (think first class, business class, etc.) to offer price points for all travelers – regardless of budget. World class ridership studies have been done and continue to inform what travelers want to create a best-in-class experience.

                              More concisely: on the high end, tickets will be competitive with the cost of flying, and on the low end, they will be competitive with the cost of driving.

                              This makes no sense to me then, I would rather fly...

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Drycreek3189 View Post
                                I thought it was gonna be high fences. I was headed for the popcorn popper !
                                Me too!

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