(Texans Against) High Speed Rail

[RiverRat1]

Looks like it will be a couple of miles east of me in South Grimes County, so theoretically wont affect me. But how any red blooded American not be against the forcible taking of land for a non essential scheme is beyond me. I truly feel for those affected by this, forcing the sale of land is still theft.

Yes and no. I'm against it simply because they are robbing taxpayers.

If they let a private company be in charge of building it without going 356,987% over budget I may be for it.

Problem is we will need better transportation in Texas pretty soon. I-35 can't handle much more for example.

You should see how much better traffic in Austin is now that light rail was put in for a mere few hundred million dollars And then they now say to maintain it is a lot more millions per year than they figured. *******!

[scott.str]

I get this it's very unfortunate. But with expanding cities and amenities it'll happen either way unfortunately

Feel free to chip in on the land that will be lost to many family’s also!

[DRT]

The problem with "private company" builds is you end up having what we have here in DFW. Toll roads and express lanes built by a foreign company who own it and the tolls collected. Another instance of our politicians selling out America.

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[scott.str]

Depends. If I want to sleep for 2 hours and not pay $80 in gas it sounds nice and relaxing on the trip. We'll worth it

For arguments sake say your traveling from Houston to SA or Austin.

You say under 2 hour trip on the train. Lets highball the trip in a car taking 4 hours on the road.

Then factor in the 30 minutes it took you to get to the train station from your office/house. Then factor having to get there an hour early from boarding/security lines.

Upon arrival in either city you then have to get transportation to your destination. Say 30 minutes in a cab/Uber.

When its time to come back home its pretty much the same time frame.

This isn't efficient time wise at all.

[Beargrasstx]

Those affected by the high speed rail will not even get the benefit of being able to use it. At least with interstates etc anyone affected was able to use it for their benefit. This is strictly for dallas and houston people too lazy to drive and maybe a few around shiro area.

It wont save any time or be cheaper than driving yourself or flying southwest. You don't think you will need security to board a high speed rail much like security for an airline? How easy will it really be to take a train to shiro and rent a car to your hunting lease? You still have to check you gun somewhere like you would on a plane.

You still will have to rent a vehicle like you would on a plane. The time it takes to do all these things will roughly add up to the same time it would take to drive yourself. You are only paying to sit on your *** instead of drive but nothing seems to make this better than flying.

Business people can communicate way easier than going through this hassle. We can skype, email, conference calls etc and with technology improving rapidly is this train really going to get use to justify cost of building and yearly maintenance?

So in short, no benefit of time for train versus a car or plane. Only one stop on train and it isnt halfway between 2 points. How many will get off at Shiro station? It wont make it easier to get to a lease unless your lease is in dallas, cypress, or shiro. You still will have safety and security checkpoints. Still need to rent a car. More expensive than driving. Same expenses as flying and same time frame.

For the few business people that this will help who commute daily between 2 cities it negatively affects far greater number of people. Those business people can still hold meetings over the internet and communicate. If you physically must work in one location over the other than I suggest dont live in Houston and work in Dallas. You made the choice of employment and must live with those decisions. People that farm and ranch and have owned their property of solitude for generations should not have to sell their land for your convenience.

[afishinman14]

I have to agree that it is inevitable. Cities are expanding. And businesses are requiring more and more travel. To be able to sit on a train, keep complete phone signal, and work while you travel will be and advantage to businesses. So I'm sure those same businesses are pushing for it.

I also think it will be quicker than flying. Probably less security than on a plane. Just take the train station in Chicago for example. Not nearly the same security as an airport.

We're also not taking about 2 hour train rides here. We're talking about 45 minutes from Houston to Dallas. And even less from Houston to San Antonio or Dallas to Austin.

It sucks for landowners. I don't personally own land. But dream of doing so one day, through my own hard work and discipline with my money. And I would be ****** if they did this to me. Especially knowing they aren't going to compensate nearly enough for the loss of income, land, and shear inconvenience


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[Beargrasstx]

I think I need to move to Alaska because Texas has been infiltrated by a bunch of socialist retards from other states that have taken over Dallas, all of Austin, and some of Houston. I dont understand how any true outdoorsman on here would ever think that this is an amazing thing. This not only destroys hunting, farming, and ranching land but part of Texas heritage. A lot of families that live in these rural areas and have chosen to stay in these rural areas due so out of a sense of love of their land. Mostly due to sentimental reasons or sense of some greater belonging because their great great granddaddy owned the land. They want to continue that rare and precious tradition that so few people can understand or get to experience. So they sacrifice and make less money than moving to the city but they keep the family tradition alive to pass down to their kids. A few **** kickers want an easier commute so they decide it is okay to take the very identity of these people away from them and give them nothing back in return except a loud train and an ugly reminder for them to see everyday as the empty train zooms past

[Pkripper]

For arguments sake say your traveling from Houston to SA or Austin.

You say under 2 hour trip on the train. Lets highball the trip in a car taking 4 hours on the road.

Then factor in the 30 minutes it took you to get to the train station from your office/house. Then factor having to get there an hour early from boarding/security lines.

Upon arrival in either city you then have to get transportation to your destination. Say 30 minutes in a cab/Uber.

When its time to come back home its pretty much the same time frame.

This isn't efficient time wise at all.

They are talking about 45 min.

[jcl]

I would love to see high speed rail but they need to expand the track to the Sherman / Denison area to benefit me most. That way you could go all the way north to south without the congestion or hassle of driving up or down 45 or 35. Travel would be fast and trouble free.

[batmaninja]

It will push development out NW, by Shiro, close to College Station. I could see people working in Houston and living in Shiro, commuting every day. You could even leave a cheap car in Houston if you wanted or carpool with coworkers.

As a city Houston spent millions on the rail and I have never seen a car more than 10% full. No telling if the riders even paid the fair, since no body checks tickets. Take a ride and look at the business that front the rail, they arent doing well. The rail isnt even keeping itself a float.

The HSR rail is not for the blue collar working man, it is for yuppies wanting to make a buck and wanting to make their lives better at the downfall of others. To me this is a very scary precedent that can be set.

[bossbowman]

With the growth in the state its going to happen sooner or later even it this one gets delayed or derailed.

[Pkripper]

I think I need to move to Alaska because Texas has been infiltrated by a bunch of socialist retards from other states that have taken over Dallas, all of Austin, and some of Houston. I dont understand how any true outdoorsman on here would ever think that this is an amazing thing. This not only destroys hunting, farming, and ranching land but part of Texas heritage. A lot of families that live in these rural areas and have chosen to stay in these rural areas due so out of a sense of love of their land. Mostly due to sentimental reasons or sense of some greater belonging because their great great granddaddy owned the land. They want to continue that rare and precious tradition that so few people can understand or get to experience. So they sacrifice and make less money than moving to the city but they keep the family tradition alive to pass down to their kids. A few **** kickers want an easier commute so they decide it is okay to take the very identity of these people away from them and give them nothing back in return except a loud train and an ugly reminder for them to see everyday as the empty train zooms past

I.D. happens everyday. Not saying it's right but it is what it is. I know this first hand from land we had in Allen and Plano.

[Beargrasstx]

Explain to me how this helps business? We can communicate no issues from home or offices. Face to face meetings...sure but you can skype. For general public use, than the train would need more stops than just the one to benefit those that live in Dallas or Houston but want to visit family in the 'country'. I dont understand how business is hindered by not having a train versus what we currently have. As far as security, I hope that the security is just as strict on a train as a plane. You dont think people cant bomb a train. Bring a gun on a train? I see Chicago has easy security for their trains. Doesnt Chicago have a high crime rate and strictest gun laws. So are we going to have stricter gun laws so the train security doesnt have to be as strict? Chicago is completely different that this situation. Have yall not thought how much easier it would be for a terrorist to bomb a train by sabotaging tracks or flying a drone into a train with a bomb attached? Much easier to terrorize a train a couple hundred miles long in a predominantly rural area.

[MASTERS]

I have family that are going to be affected by it. They want nothing to do with it.....

[quackerback]

I would be all for it if it followed the highways. They don’t want to do that so I hope it fails.