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Selfish act.... you have no idea what you are talking about. Pot meet kettle, sounds like a very selfish thing to say actually which is so very ironic.
Since someone who would say this obviously has no understanding of emotional pain and misery caused by anxiety and depression I will leave an example maybe you will understand, physical pain.
Imagine at what level you would have to be tortured in intense physical pain that you would look at a gun or a noose and say yes, this is my way out of this hell. Its at that same level that someone suffering from a mental illness feels that they would make that choice from emotional pain.
Lots of real selfish men and women went to war recently and came back to be very selfish. What selfish people they were.
Prayers for your Nephew OP.
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostSometimes the best thing to say is nothing at all.Originally posted by J Sweet View PostSelfish act.... you have no idea what you are talking about. Pot meet kettle, sounds like a very selfish thing to say actually which is so very ironic.
Since someone who would say this obviously has no understanding of emotional pain and misery caused by anxiety and depression I will leave an example maybe you will understand, physical pain.
Imagine at what level you would have to be tortured in intense physical pain that you would look at a gun or a noose and say yes, this is my way out of this hell. Its at that same level that someone suffering from a mental illness feels that they would make that choice from emotional pain.
Lots of real selfish men and women went to war recently and came back to be very selfish. What selfish people they were.
Prayers for your Nephew OP.
Having contemplated suicide as a younger man, I can also speak from my own experience. I didn't care about the pain I would have caused so many people.
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Originally posted by J Sweet View PostSelfish act.... you have no idea what you are talking about. Pot meet kettle, sounds like a very selfish thing to say actually which is so very ironic.
Since someone who would say this obviously has no understanding of emotional pain and misery caused by anxiety and depression I will leave an example maybe you will understand, physical pain.
Imagine at what level you would have to be tortured in intense physical pain that you would look at a gun or a noose and say yes, this is my way out of this hell. Its at that same level that someone suffering from a mental illness feels that they would make that choice from emotional pain.
Lots of real selfish men and women went to war recently and came back to be very selfish. What selfish people they were.
Prayers for your Nephew OP.
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Everyone has their own opinions on the matter for sure, and that's exactly what they are....opinions no one is right or wrong. After seeing people like Robin Williams, most recent Chester Bennington and reading about military and first responder suicide rates I believe people with depression are fighting demons I can't fathom and for me to say it's selfish, for me is wrong. I have never walked a mile in their shoes and I pray I never do, to me there is definitely something more going on.
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Originally posted by woodsman View PostGonna have to respectfully disagree fellas. People end it because they're focused solely on their own pain and situation/lot in life.
Having contemplated suicide as a younger man, I can also speak from my own experience. I didn't care about the pain I would have caused so many people.
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Originally posted by J Sweet View PostSelfish act.... you have no idea what you are talking about. Pot meet kettle, sounds like a very selfish thing to say actually which is so very ironic.
Since someone who would say this obviously has no understanding of emotional pain and misery caused by anxiety and depression I will leave an example maybe you will understand, physical pain.
Imagine at what level you would have to be tortured in intense physical pain that you would look at a gun or a noose and say yes, this is my way out of this hell. Its at that same level that someone suffering from a mental illness feels that they would make that choice from emotional pain.
Lots of real selfish men and women went to war recently and came back to be very selfish. What selfish people they were.
Prayers for your Nephew OP.
This^^^^ 100%
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In my opinion, ultimately it is selfish. Not an intentional selfishness though. I just don't think the disease will let them see past their challenges. My brother in law was the most good hearted man you'd want to know. Kind to the core. He'd have dug a kidney out with a pocket knife for another person in need. He was successful, and highly educated too. He did not do drugs or alcohol, and he was a strong Christian.
But he couldn't get past it. He killed himself.
Depression is more substantial than most of us know. And we sure don't understand it. But the OP is spot on. It SUX.
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