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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View PostHow old is the earth, 6 billion years old?
Aliens could have been coming here once every 20,000 years or in other words they could have came here 300,000 times and just missed humankind.
You guys "get" the magnitude of space etc, but seem to not want to understand odds.
Architectural sights know to be 10's of thousands of years old exist in every corner of this planet. Structures that cold not have been built by humans 10 thousand years ago but these sites still exist.
Every civilization 2000 years ago spoke and wrote about the star people. These people helped to build things,create language, mathematics, capable of controlled flight.
Dierenkuyu(sp) is a sight in Turkey. It reaches up to 300 feet underground. Capable of housing 20k people,have 15k vent shafts etc. There is no way people 200+ years ago could have built it with their tools and knowledge at the time.
OPEN THY MIND my friend
No money spent exploring space is a waste
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Originally posted by Gunnyart View PostThe fastest manmade object utilizing the slingshot effect managed to achieve .00012 the speed of light (87,000mph).
Math was never my strong suit but that's a tiny fraction of the speed that, if we could begin to approach, would still take us 1,400 years to get there.
Mind boggling to me.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostThere is evidence all over the earth that supports or at least questions whether or not our ancestors had help in our development.
Architectural sights know to be 10's of thousands of years old exist in every corner of this planet. Structures that cold not have been built by humans 10 thousand years ago but these sites still exist.
Every civilization 2000 years ago spoke and wrote about the star people. These people helped to build things,create language, mathematics, capable of controlled flight.
Dierenkuyu(sp) is a sight in Turkey. It reaches up to 300 feet underground. Capable of housing 20k people,have 15k vent shafts etc. There is no way people 200+ years ago could have built it with their tools and knowledge at the time.
OPEN THY MIND my friend
No money spent exploring space is a waste
I don't. They had solutions for things we've forgotten. We've solved problems they never knew existed.
When people started to farm, they had more dead time... and could apply their brain to other things besides hunting... When they started to build societies where everyone could specialize a craft.... that's when things got interesting... but don't think for a second that the average person 5000 years ago was dumber than the average person today.
Same Processor and hard drive... different information stored.
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Your right Encinal humans in Ancient society's were able to learn over time how to turn a flint rock into a flint weapon or tool and solve even more advanced task than that. And yes over time some developed more and more advanced brains capable of some pretty amazing intelligence but even with intelligence some things still could not have been done by humans 5k-10k-50k -100k years ago but yet there are plenty of highly advanced structures, objects around the world dating back to even farther back in time.
I do believe it is highly likely that knowledge is lost over time and has to be relearned but the knowledge of 100k years ago still could not have produced some of the things around the world left today
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Originally posted by Pedernal View PostI say we ship all the liberals of to newly discovered planet in the habitable zone so they can live really green without us environment polluting folks. What do you guys think?
I think the science is interesting, but the underlying reason they're publicizing this is a continual pressure to eliminate Christianity and the concept of a God from the US. If there is life on another planet-whatever it is- who said God did not create it as well?
All part of their plans!!!!
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Originally posted by flywise View PostYour right Encinal humans in Ancient society's were able to learn over time how to turn a flint rock into a flint weapon or tool and solve even more advanced task than that. And yes over time some developed more and more advanced brains capable of some pretty amazing intelligence but even with intelligence some things still could not have been done by humans 5k-10k-50k -100k years ago but yet there are plenty of highly advanced structures, objects around the world dating back to even farther back in time.
I do believe it is highly likely that knowledge is lost over time and has to be relearned but the knowledge of 100k years ago still could not have produced some of the things around the world left today
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View PostExactly what I said. I'm asking what have we found in space that we can use. Not what we can learn as humans spending trillions exploring. We could have spent the same money but focused on specific things and be further ahead.
And if they think they find something we could never get to it so it's all just for fun. I'm not knocking anyone for wanting to explore and enjoy. But there should be limits and it is a waste of money.
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Originally posted by sethcros View PostI guess this can't just be a cool scientific discovery without bringing politics into it. Sigh. Oh well
Originally posted by Smell the Glove View PostThe tech returns we get from nasa are well worth the money.
Originally posted by Smell the Glove View PostYou're right, lets just look at a book to determine how old everything is. No point in trying to figure this stuff out.
Originally posted by Smell the Glove View PostA general expansion of our knowledge of the universe is never a bad thing. A good deal of modern technology exists as a direct result of the space program driving the need to innovate. Most of the modern technology that we take for granted was based off of technology from Bell Labs and NASA.
Originally posted by Smell the Glove View PostTotal NASA spending is under 500b since 1958, so about 100 billion less that the defense budget for this year alone. There is absolutely no way of knowing if we would be further ahead if we would have "focused on specific things" since most of the breakthroughs have been invented in response to problems they encountered trying to get things in space.
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Originally posted by Encinal View PostKnowledge is an aggregate of societal learning. Obviously humans today are more knowledgeable. Individual intellects however... Capacity to store and use knowledge are no different today than 5000 years ago.
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