Impact Resistant Shingles

[Russ]

I never said they didnt work but what's the point? Damaged is damaged. If you need to sign a waiver to get a discount then your insurance company won't pay for hail damage because you have IR Shingles. Cosmetic damage is not covered and you are stuck with a roof the is cosmetically damaged and therefore not covered. Buddy!

If the roof is susceptible to leaking they will pay for it. They don't wait for the house to flood.

If you can see the damage from the ground on a IR shingle it will get replaced. At that point it is no longer just cosmetic when it come to shingle if its that bad. I will kick Atfulldraws (Rod) ladder down and leave him up there if he didn't buy it, but I am sure he agrees.

A few tiny dings you can only see while climbing all over the roof, why would ya want to replace a lifetime or 50 year warranty roof anyway?

I do agree with the above statement about malarkey IR as well. They are great shingles too!

[sideways]

At least we agree.

[Russ]

LOL!

Thanks Russ.

I know what and who he is.

I figured ya did. Come to Stephenville man. I'd like to see you metal magic at work!

So far just a bunch of mad home owners with metal roofs that look like hell.

[Russ]

At least we agree.

One more thing....if you have a high quality IR roof.... you lower your premium by doing so, but you can also raise your deductible as well knowing that you will not have to make a claim on the roof near as often.....which also lowers your premiums even more.

Lower premiums, less replacements, less deductibles paid.... equals money saved.

[Blue Tick]

Lots of good information here from all sides it seems. I have had 2 long phone conversations with Russ about my roof. When his crew is ready, he is coming to Tomball to fix our roof. I have talked to 3 other roofing contractors in addition to him and didn't feel like I was being shot straight with about the whole process. Russ took the time to look at all my paperwork and go through it with me.

[RR 314]

Ok boys. How about a standing seam where you don't take a discount for having metal and no waiver for cosmetic damage? :-)

Just got several quotes for 24 gauge standing seam and half-round gutters for 88 sq. roof (forgot linear feet of gutter) and my guesstimate was off by about 10-15k. I need to do more research and talk to my insurance company as I would be miffed if I had a cellulite laden roof without option for replacement. Thanks for the heads up. My parents had an Alcoa aluminum roof that had all kinds of cosmetic only damage and they had it covered but obviously the policy terms control.

[sideways]

24 gauge is very durable. Standing seam is even better. Make sure you are clear on what your insurance covers. They are not all the same.

36k plus 3500 for gutters ain't nothing you would like see damaged by hail and not covered

[Roamer]

Not even the company you work for agrees with you....

http://www.muellerinc.com/metal-roofing

What do they not agree with me about?

You can put R,U,& Corrugated over composition shingles. But to clarify, it is not the best practice. If you install it over shingles you will lose the benefit of the metal roofing's ability to release heat at a quicker rate. Hince not getting the full benefits of the roof. Which is to help with your utility bills. Your roof doesn't stay as hot as long.
Another bit of info: The composition under your metal roof makes it easier to dent.

[Mertzon Man]

Oh well, I sold a house last year I lived in for thirty years. I installed a concrete tile roof on it when I built it. We had three major hail storms in 30 years. I replace about 50 pcs of tile about a half a square. My neighbors replaced their roofs twice. Comp shingles, metal, and wood shingles. I will be installing tile on my next build.

[Atfulldraw]

What do they not agree with me about?

You can put R,U,& Corrugated over composition shingles. But to clarify, it is not the best practice. If you install it over shingles you will lose the benefit of the metal roofing's ability to release heat at a quicker rate. Hince not getting the full benefits of the roof. Which is to help with your utility bills. Your roof doesn't stay as hot as long.
Another bit of info: The composition under your metal roof makes it easier to dent.

There are way too many variables to say that with such certainty....

Just to be clear....no reputable company can make that claim, simply because it hasn't been proven due to the widely varying methods of installation.

If you install battens, there is actually some anecdotal evidence that the shingles underneath provide some additional insulation value and energy savings by slowing heat transfer, much like a block wall works in the winter time by absorbing heat during the day and transmitting it to the interior during the cooler evening.


I'm also in agreement with the tile roofing promotion above. If you plan to stay there for a while, tile is a viable alternative roofing product.

Working right now in Austin (Lakeway) I've inspected a couple of dozen tile roofs after the most recent storm. They have had damages, but it's mostly cosmetic in nature - the most tiles I've replaced has been four on one roof.

To be fair, the average amount of damages have been to the lead pipe flashings, heat caps, flashings and off ridge vents, all of which require removal and resetting of the tiles for the repairs. In addition to the roof vents, in a directional, wind-driven hail event, you can also have damages to the drip edge and bird stop, again requiring removal and reset of the tiles. Open valleys also allow for damages to the metal valley flashing.

The average repair cost to these concrete tile roof claims has been in the neighborhood of $8,000. Nothing to sneeze at, but these are 500K and up houses, most with a 1% deductible.

[Atfulldraw]

which is much better than this....

[Russ]

which is much better than this....

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What's wrong with that roof?

[Russ]

I have just a few homes left in these shingles.

[Bluesman]

These guys test roofing materials, they have a Lab near DFW Airport.

http://www.archtest.com/certification/Roof_Impact.aspx

It's all destructive testing and interesting to watch.