Originally posted by Tommyh
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What lawsuit ended the practice? The highway thing was just an analogy - kind of far fetched but the speed comparison works. -
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Call it cynical or tin foil hatish, but I think you're right.Originally posted by Speedgoat View Post
I may be wrong, but I overheard some commentary that these new regs model something that has been in place for sometime in Europe.Comment
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Originally posted by Tommyh View PostOf the two who voted against neutrality, one of them (Pai) was former legal counsel for Verizon. The other is just an idiot, and proved it during his speech. They both have reason to lie and the internet is not coming to a crashing halt. And you want to know why you can't read the 8 page (not 330 Page) plan, those two are refusing to make their basic edits. So they are essentially taking their ball and going home.Originally posted by Tommyh View PostComment
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I fear that a lot of the folks on here who are opposed to Net Neutrality hold such a position because it is largely opposed by Republicans and they're touting party lines...with no real understanding of what Net Neutrality means. I am speaking seriously and non-sarcastically here...no trolling.
Net Neutrality is a very very good thing for all of us, and I will explain why.
1. If you think you don't want the FCC meddling in your Internets, you're not looking at the big picture. The telco's and ISP's who are the chief opponents of Net Neutrality are the ones you need to worry about, not the FCC. They want to make the Internet a place where they can give priority to the data THEY like (read: what makes the more money and is in-line with their agendas), in terms of speed and access.
2. The Internet was born as, and will hopefully will always remain, a NEUTRAL place. No country, government, political party, religion or other special interest group can monopolize it's architecture, usage, or manner of consumption by the global populace. Maintenance of this way of things should be as important to every American as their 2A rights.
3. This is not a liberal vs. conservative battle. STOP TOUTING PARTY LINES and trying to make this a partisan issue. It is a "freedom vs. corporations" issue.
4. I invite you to read this:
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a group committed to protecting YOUR rights from being taken away by OUR government in the digital age that we live in.
If your first thought is that they must somehow be some evil liberal group, I should let you know that they have represented gun ownership advocates in suing the NSA over their ridiculously illegal surveillance practices.
Anyway, I'll leave it that that, since I've got a house full of sick girls right now, so I'm on double duty cooking comfort foods and administering medicines. Happy Sunday everyone, and please please please remember to not let your emotions get the best of you and resort to ad hominem attacks....attack issues not people.Comment
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Originally posted by Sneaky View PostI fear that a lot of the folks on here who are opposed to Net Neutrality hold such a position because it is largely opposed by Republicans and they're touting party lines...with no real understanding of what Net Neutrality means. I am speaking seriously and non-sarcastically here...no trolling.
Net Neutrality is a very very good thing for all of us, and I will explain why.
1. If you think you don't want the FCC meddling in your Internets, you're not looking at the big picture. The telco's and ISP's who are the chief opponents of Net Neutrality are the ones you need to worry about, not the FCC. They want to make the Internet a place where they can give priority to the data THEY like (read: what makes the more money and is in-line with their agendas), in terms of speed and access.
2. The Internet was born as, and will hopefully will always remain, a NEUTRAL place. No country, government, political party, religion or other special interest group can monopolize it's architecture, usage, or manner of consumption by the global populace. Maintenance of this way of things should be as important to every American as their 2A rights.
3. This is not a liberal vs. conservative battle. STOP TOUTING PARTY LINES and trying to make this a partisan issue. It is a "freedom vs. corporations" issue.
4. I invite you to read this:
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a group committed to protecting YOUR rights from being taken away by OUR government in the digital age that we live in.
If your first thought is that they must somehow be some evil liberal group, I should let you know that they have represented gun ownership advocates in suing the NSA over their ridiculously illegal surveillance practices.
Anyway, I'll leave it that that, since I've got a house full of sick girls right now, so I'm on double duty cooking comfort foods and administering medicines. Happy Sunday everyone, and please please please remember to not let your emotions get the best of you and resort to ad hominem attacks....attack issues not people.
I could care less about talking points, or even left vs right and I am pretty sure most people here are in the same boat as I am. We are not against leveling the playing field and making everyone play by the same rules, IF that is all that would happen.
But it is not all that will happen. Just as already posted, take a look at ANY alphabet agency and you will see how they have expanded their scope and are now doing more than their agency was EVER intended to do. Why would this be any different?
If you expect this agency to be different than all of the other government agencies then I have one single question for you. Do you know what doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different outcomes is? That is the definition of insanity.
To add to this, if you believe that the government agencies have your best interest at heart then I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that I would like to sell you.
I can back up ALL of what I post with facts. Obama even stated MULTIPLE times during his first presidential election that he was going to fundamentally transform this country. He didn't say he was going to change a few things. He didn't say he was going to change the basics, no he said he was going to FUNDAMENTALLY change this country. So what are the fundamentals of this country? Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Why would someone want to change this unless he does not like how the U.S.A. currently is???Comment
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You just dont invite the jackal in to monitor the goat and the sheep.Originally posted by Sneaky View PostI fear that a lot of the folks on here who are opposed to Net Neutrality hold such a position because it is largely opposed by Republicans and they're touting party lines...with no real understanding of what Net Neutrality means. I am speaking seriously and non-sarcastically here...no trolling.
Net Neutrality is a very very good thing for all of us, and I will explain why.
1. If you think you don't want the FCC meddling in your Internets, you're not looking at the big picture. The telco's and ISP's who are the chief opponents of Net Neutrality are the ones you need to worry about, not the FCC. They want to make the Internet a place where they can give priority to the data THEY like (read: what makes the more money and is in-line with their agendas), in terms of speed and access.
2. The Internet was born as, and will hopefully will always remain, a NEUTRAL place. No country, government, political party, religion or other special interest group can monopolize it's architecture, usage, or manner of consumption by the global populace. Maintenance of this way of things should be as important to every American as their 2A rights.
3. This is not a liberal vs. conservative battle. STOP TOUTING PARTY LINES and trying to make this a partisan issue. It is a "freedom vs. corporations" issue.
4. I invite you to read this:
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a group committed to protecting YOUR rights from being taken away by OUR government in the digital age that we live in.
If your first thought is that they must somehow be some evil liberal group, I should let you know that they have represented gun ownership advocates in suing the NSA over their ridiculously illegal surveillance practices.
Anyway, I'll leave it that that, since I've got a house full of sick girls right now, so I'm on double duty cooking comfort foods and administering medicines. Happy Sunday everyone, and please please please remember to not let your emotions get the best of you and resort to ad hominem attacks....attack issues not people.Comment
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What I'm saying is that the Telcom company's and ISP's are out to F you way more than the FCC is in this case.Originally posted by Tommyh View PostComment
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