Kill to Save?

[wtx223]

I do not agree with the hypocrisy of killing and endangered animal under the guise of conservation.

If these animals are indeed endangered, then no amount of money is justified in killing it to raise money to protect them from what your doing in the first place.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ation-science/

Specific animal they will shoot is a nuisance that cannot breed and has killed younger animals.

I have heard there will be 4 more old bulls shot as well for same reason.

Should have auctioned all of them off.

[Tmag]

Amazing how one permit sold in the United States can bring so much attention to something that has been going on for years. They sell 5 permits a year through Namibia outfitters to out of country "rich folks" and select the animal allowed to kill, which is an old, worn out, impotent, aggressive bull that they will kill otherwise.

It's their country, how they run it is their business.

Add to that, SPCA, PITA, Humane Society, etc. up on their high horse about the killing of animals while they are doing the very same thing to dogs and cats and other animals all over America. HYPOCRITES indeed!

[ZZ Pops]

Popcorn anyone?

Yes, please. I'd also like a diet Pepsi while you're at it!

[Muygrande]

Surely some anti-hunting latte sipper in New York hacked his account and posted this. Anyone with even a basic understanding of Africa knows that it has been proven over and over that the only way to protect a species is to give them economic value higher than you might get from poaching and the only people willing to foot the bill are hunters.

That old Rhino is going to die one way or another. What is wrong with letting a hunter take him and getting a sack of cash to help conserve the future for the species as a whole?

[Atfulldraw]

now look....we are trying to have an argument here.

this is no time for logic and common sense.

[Extremehunter37]

I think there are good things about the hunt and bad. Five hunts at 350k brings alot of money for the people that are trying to save them from poachers that kill just for the horn. The fact that they are catching poachers and turning them into guards to keep from jail helps but you have to pay them some how to keep them from going back to the dark side of the fence. You have to kill the needs of the ivory to kill the drive of poachers to indeed win the war. May not be the best opinion, but its the best one I have lol

[WCB]

Then why didn't you outbid the winner?? Put your money where your mouth is, make the high bid then don't do the hunt..
Oh wait, Namibia is selling the permits and the rhino will die either way...

[crazy8]

Popcorn anyone?

Yeah, but no salt or butter.

[trophy8]

now look....we are trying to have an argument here.

this is no time for logic and common sense.

I was told he was going to do it with a crossbow in a 5 acre pen while highly intoxicated and smoking pot just to add to the adventure

[dallascowboys]

Popcorn anyone?

i will have to report you to the mods for failure to send said popcorn!

[rossivey]

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[Landrover]

The animal in question does not need protection from hunters, it needs protection from poachers. $350K in Africa will provide much needed habitat and enable anit-poaching efforts to be stepped up to protect the species. The vast majority of anti-poaching $$ in Africa comes from the hunters who visit there. Placing a monetary value on the animal it shows the worth of the animal to its habitat.

Same goes for any of the Big 5. Lions and Leopards more often targeted with traps and poisons, by placing high trophy fees and daily rates, this gives the rancher a viable option of calling an outfitter in to take care of the animal. The same can be applied to Elephants as well who repeatedly raid crops.

If I had an extra 350K lying around would I place a bid? Probably not, Ive never had an interest in Rhino, but since this effort was put forth by the Dallas Safari Club (who has an outstanding record in conservation) I trust that monies spent will go into the right hands.

Thank you for saving me the TIME and EFFORT from having to type this all over again. Conservation truly is the BEST tool to manage any species. Preservation is what we do with relics.

[RGVBowHunter]

What if the animal is past its prime and is more of a danger to the species than helpful?

Not to mention the cost of feeding a lame animal that can not donate to the gene pool any longer. Any breeding program will explain why they need to get the weakest genetic links out of the herd. If the animal can not reproduce and is aggressive to the others that cannot donate to the gene pool than it needs to be removed from the herd. If it is at end of life and the program can gain from the money buy investing in making the herd stronger with more offspring then yes it is acceptable.

[Shane]

Man, we're sunk if hunters don't even understand how wildlife conservation works. How will we ever expect to education the non-hunters if our own ranks don't know that basics? Forget about changing the minds of the emotional anti-hunters. Rational thought won't help them anyway. But surely we can educate ourselves and the rational-thinking non-hunters of the world.

I hope.

[Mudslinger]

Notice the OP has not spoken again.