Kill to Save?

[TexasBear]

Charles, you ought to know better. It's my opinion, popular or not I do have the right to my opinion, or should I send each post to you first for review?

Hey Henry, how's your day going?

[Tommyh]

I just believe there are alternative ways to achieve the same results for this particular species.

Are there other ways to raise the money? Possibly

Are there other ways to remove an older male, if he is in fact "past his prime" and still dominating younger males? I'm sure there is while at the same time enjoying it's existence.

After all, animals are for all, not just hunters. The one sided argument that a, God forbid, "liberal" have any opinion on hunting is short sided.

id be curious to seethe cost to dart it safely, transport it to a zoo safely, and the likelihood it would survive captivity for a length of time to make it profitable for a zoo to accomplish the task.

[Texastaxi]

I just believe there are alternative ways to achieve the same results for this particular species.

Are there other ways to raise the money? Possibly

Are there other ways to remove an older male, if he is in fact "past his prime" and still dominating younger males? I'm sure there is while at the same time enjoying it's existence.

After all, animals are for all, not just hunters. The one sided argument that a, God forbid, "liberal" have any opinion on hunting is short sided.

As a hunter, I think the way they're doing it is outstanding and makes complete sense.

I'd like to hear your alternate ideas on "ways to raise money, remove an older male, and achieve the same results for this particular species."

[Sippy]

You fail to understand the basic concepts behind conservation and monetary value.

[Smell the Glove]

id be curious to seethe cost to dart it safely, transport it to a zoo safely, and the likelihood it would survive captivity for a length of time to make it profitable for a zoo to accomplish the task.

It's awesome for photos

[Arrow chucker]

I have beer and y'll have popcorn and rhino jerky this will be good!

[coonazz]

It's awesome for photos

That's awesome.

[Homer75]

So the libtards want to take an animal from the wild and put it in a cage for our enjoyment . We could then talk to it and tell it that picking on the smaller rinos is bad, sounds like our prison systems, that's working well.

[Homer75]

It's awesome for photos

That's funny as all get out, I'm still crying...

[Shane]

I just believe there are alternative ways to achieve the same results for this particular species.

Are there other ways to raise the money? Possibly

Are there other ways to remove an older male, if he is in fact "past his prime" and still dominating younger males? I'm sure there is while at the same time enjoying it's existence.

After all, animals are for all, not just hunters. The one sided argument that a, God forbid, "liberal" have any opinion on hunting is short sided.

I agree with the bolded statement wholeheartedly. And I agree that there are conceivable ways to accomplish the same goals with the rhino. But are any of those other conceivable methods actually practical? Would any of them be as effective as wildlife conservation through hunting? No. If so, they would be in use.

We could go down a more politically correct path by trying some of the alternative ideas that don't involve hunting, and it would make some people feel better about things. But it would be a very short-sighted thing to do. Those folks would feel better in the short term, knowing that no one was able to buy a hunt and actually enjoy taking a trophy of a lifetime. But the vital funding that supports the conservation and, most importantly, the protection of the rhinos would soon dry up. Once there was no funding to protect the rhinos, the animals wouldn't be "for all" anymore. They would be for the poachers and the black market in China where the horns would all be sold. And then the rhinos would be extinct.

But at least nobody would enjoy a trophy hunt in the process, so the anti-hunters could at least have that satisfaction. I think some of them would actually rather see the rhino go extinct if it meant nobody could have an opportunity to enjoy a trophy hunt. I don't think that applies to you at all, Henry. But I do think there are some folks out there that would fit that description.

The fact remains that, while other methods may be more emotionally appealing to some people, conservation and wildlife management through managed hunting is the only effective and practical way to accomplish the goals of saving and protecting and increasing the numbers of game animal herds. If we want the best for an animal population, then we have to use hunting as the primary management and fundraising tool. It works every time it's applied. No other group, no matter how caring they claim to be, has been able to have even a fraction of the success that hunters have had in wildlife conservation and restoration efforts.

The desert bighorn sheep in my avatar is a testament to that fact, by the way.

[Henry]

Thanks Trad and Shane for a well written post.

You really helped me understand.

And thanks to most of the other replies as well.

To the rest of you, your replies are why topics get shut down.

[cj7zrcool]

....The one sided argument that a, God forbid, "liberal" have any opinion on hunting is short sided.

You are definitely allowed to have an opinion, you just prove once again that Liberals are wrong.

[Hardware]

I agree with the bolded statement wholeheartedly. And I agree that there are conceivable ways to accomplish the same goals with the rhino. But are any of those other conceivable methods actually practical? Would any of them be as effective as wildlife conservation through hunting? No. If so, they would be in use.

We could go down a more politically correct path by trying some of the alternative ideas that don't involve hunting, and it would make some people feel better about things. But it would be a very short-sighted thing to do. Those folks would feel better in the short term, knowing that no one was able to buy a hunt and actually enjoy taking a trophy of a lifetime. But the vital funding that supports the conservation and, most importantly, the protection of the rhinos would soon dry up. Once there was no funding to protect the rhinos, the animals wouldn't be "for all" anymore. They would be for the poachers and the black market in China where the horns would all be sold. And then the rhinos would be extinct.

But at least nobody would enjoy a trophy hunt in the process, so the anti-hunters could at least have that satisfaction. I think some of them would actually rather see the rhino go extinct if it meant nobody could have an opportunity to enjoy a trophy hunt. I don't think that applies to you at all, Henry. But I do think there are some folks out there that would fit that description.

The fact remains that, while other methods may be more emotionally appealing to some people, conservation and wildlife management through managed hunting is the only effective and practical way to accomplish the goals of saving and protecting and increasing the numbers of game animal herds. If we want the best for an animal population, then we have to use hunting as the primary management and fundraising tool. It works every time it's applied. No other group, no matter how caring they claim to be, has been able to have even a fraction of the success that hunters have had in wildlife conservation and restoration efforts.

The desert bighorn sheep in my avatar is a testament to that fact, by the way.

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Thanks I couldn't have said it any better.

[Henry]

Photo safaris can be exciting too.

[Shane]

Ridicule and name-calling isn't going to change anybody's mind. Henry is a good guy who just has a different opinion. He (and others that share his opinion) might be persuaded if we have a rational discussion.