What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

[Bowhuntamistad]

maybe Im paranoid but enough weird people have already shown what can happen. I had my hand on my pistol and followed him all the way to back.

I hate to say it man, but that's wrong as well.

Having a CHL doesn't make you a vigilante or a LEO...look what happened to Zimmermann.

[Razorback01]

This is one of those- just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's correct.

[Codie]

Why it was probably stupid to carry it in the open in a Wla-mart, if it was a real gun, it's still his right. You have to be careful how you define things, there are a lot of guys who carry firearms to hunt "public lands" which by definition is in public.

Surely you are not trying to insinuate that carrying a gun onto public hjnting land is ANYWHERE near the same thing as carrying it into WalMart

[Codie]

Why in the world do you have to have a CHL to carry a pistol CONCEALED but are fully legal to carry a rifle/shotgun around in the wide open?

It doesnt make enough sense for me to believe honestly - of course anything that DOESN'T make sense is being written into law every day it seems so I dont know why it eould suprise me

[Howard]

Main thing that alarmed me was way he was carrying and he looked like a foreigner...but then I remember its nerdy white kids shooting up places so I relaxed -

Seriously in today's world I found it alarming someone. I didn't go all stealth trying to duck and cover but I did follow him basically to see what the heck was going on.

Had he started shooting, or anything crazy your dang right I think I would have center punched his noggin but who knows....I may have chose flight -

Just really caught me off guard and even though on a small Texas rural town I was thinking some people would freak out seeing this

[Daniel75]

Absolutely...its called manslaughter.

Until that person starts shooting, what he is doing is not illegal nor do you have the right to shoot.


Its the same principal as if you're weapon printed or you lifted your arms reaching for something and your gun showed, then the guy next to you shot you because he didn't know if you were about to start shooting because you had a gun.

No sir. You don't have to wait until someone starts shooting to defend yourself. Please don't ever think that, it'll get you killed.

SUBCHAPTER C. PROTECTION OF PERSONS

Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05.

[Howard]

I probably just watched too much tv last night - first two episodes of us marshal tx- The guy on first episode - Max piñon went to Hempstead here couple grades ahead of me and was good friends with my sister. His younger brother was a grade behind me - Pretty cool to see

My cousin and Our very own TBHr MichaelW is also a marshal .

[krisw]

Good luck selling that to the jury in this situation.

[Happy97]

Surely you are not trying to insinuate that carrying a gun onto public hjnting land is ANYWHERE near the same thing as carrying it into WalMart

Not at all, I think something like that is a little off in most people's opinion, but legal is legal. I think it really shows how much common sense is lost in our society. People do things like that and it only allows more restrictive laws to be written. I agree with you on the fact that a guy doing something like this is probably stupid, I'm just not sure I want our government to start drawing any more lines on what we can and cannot do.

[muddyfuzzy]

our local walmart does not sell guns anymore first of all.

There was a young looking dude that walked into garden center with a blacked out AR looking gun carrying it like at a 45 degree angle in front of him. Had rails and accessories if it wasnt real sure looked real His left hand on the front and right hand on the handle and finger on the trigger..

I was like WTH..... He walked in and turned and walked straight to the back and through the doors into back of the store- Trip was right through entire store..... It may have been an airsoft gun or something but looked steel and real to me. No orange tips. There was a lady that was an employee that met him about center of store and walked rest of way to the back.

maybe Im paranoid but enough weird people have already shown what can happen. I had my hand on my pistol and followed him all the way to back. They were laughing and cutting up towards end but I said - man thats a good way to get shot as they entered the back of the store....

what if he had perceived you as a threat since you were skinning your piece since he was not partaking in an unlawful activity. good way for some innocent people to get shot huh, I me you playing law dog and all. just goes to show you maybe perception isn't all its cracked up to be.

[Artos]

Main thing that alarmed me was way he was carrying and he looked like a foreigner...but then I remember its nerdy white kids shooting up places so I relaxed

that made me lol...

I know our local gun shops get wound up with any individual walking in without a cased gun & I have seen it more than once...to me, it's just commom sense to not cause alarm.


In todays world, who here would really walk into a wally world or Acedemy with a long gun & not be surprised to have the day ruined?? I wouldn't flinch if at gun show, but in a major dept store?? Sorry, don't care what the law says...still a fail.

[10-96inTexas]

I cannot believe the ignorance of the law involved here or the ignorance of the protection of our basic constitutional rights that some people seem to want to trample on because they are afraid.

This person may have been stupid but he was legal. Stop him and you will be next.

Just my opinion.

[Howard]

What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

I agree about his rights , he's legal blah blah blah and I didn't call law just observed closely.
99% of time if I am in Wally World my wife is getting the goods, my kids are in toys (which is directly between the garden center and sporting goods , and I am in automotive ...or in car waiting.
This time I'm alone but a few freaks out there have ruined it to say oh he's just exercising his rights let him be. See- to me doing that and not making sure things were ok would be stupid of me in my opinion in today's times.
I wasn't trying to play hero but I wasn't prepared to play coward neither- An unexperienced young person w a gun no matter what kind could potentially be stopped before shooting up a place if right person was there and acted in time. It's happened before-

[Kodiakk]

I cannot believe the ignorance of the law involved here or the ignorance of the protection of our basic constitutional rights that some people seem to want to trample on because they are afraid.

This person may have been stupid but he was legal. Stop him and you will be next.

Just my opinion.

+1

[SmTx]

Saved that kid's life not calling Hempstead PD