What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

[txsowslayer]

The last time I checked the good ole constitution the 2A explicitly says "shall not be infringed". However the gov has decided to infringe any way.... a tax to carry a firearm??? ***!

[mwinter501]

Sorry but this mentality is what got us where we are now.

The public only sees one side and its not in our favor. The more the public sees the other side that guns and gun owners in general are not evil the better its going to be for our cause not worse.

I agree that it would be better for us if the public saw more responsible "non-crazy" gun owners. I just think there are better ways to go about showcasing responsible gun ownership and second amendment rights than a bunch of people walking around Walmart with rifles. I've had to go to many demonstrations at walmarts in my area where there are a bunch of ****** of guys with rifles walking around as if they were daring anyone to say anything. Like it or not, we don't live in a society where that is the norm, and I can't see those tactics winning over anyone who is on the fence when it comes to gun control.

[tvc184]

http://law.justia.com/cases/texas/fi...0157-cr-6.html

I don't see how this case has any bearing on most situations.

[hollywood40]

well its legal either way. granted he shouldnt have his finger on the trigger but he can def have it. Odds are he was just a young kid that worked there and it was a toy. he certainly should have been a bit more aware of how it can make others feel though

You did it right

[BigFoot]

I wouldn't report it as it's legal. But I might bookmark his description in case something did happen.

I wouldn't have followed him, especially if I thought he had ill intentions. Not my job to play hero. I carry to protect myself. Removing myself from possible encounters is my first line of defense

If you were not armed, I can see removing yourself. But if you had your CCW, a 1911 at that (most people I have talked to can, or at least say they can, shoot a 1911 very well) would you be able to forgive yourself if he had shot up the place and you simply walked away? I give props to the OP, seems like he's doing the right thing here, and would do the same thing in his shoes, just because they are not family, doesn't mean they shouldn't be protected.
This is purely just my standpoint, I guess people just have different mindsets.

[Daniel75]

Sorry but this mentality is what got us where we are now.

The public only sees one side and its not in our favor. The more the public sees the other side that guns and gun owners in general are not evil the better its going to be for our cause not worse.

So, just curious, how many Walmarts have you walked into with your AR? Just wondering, since you seem to think it's such a great idea.

[Kevin]

Sorry but this mentality is what got us where we are now.

The public only sees one side and its not in our favor. The more the public sees the other side that guns and gun owners in general are not evil the better its going to be for our cause not worse.

I disagree. How on earth do you think walking around inside of a Walmart with an AR-15 could possibly be good for responsible gun owners? To me that says a very irresponsible person has a gun in a store, because no person would half a brain would think that's a good idea.

[Mike D]

I disagree. How on earth do you think walking around inside of a Walmart with an AR-15 could possibly be good for responsible gun owners? To me that says a very irresponsible person has a gun in a store, because no person would half a brain would think that's a good idea.

Why not?

[Mike D]

What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

So, just curious, how many Walmarts have you walked into with your AR? Just wondering, since you seem to think it's such a great idea.

I've already answered that question Daniel.

Let me ask you, if I were to come to Ft Worth and decide to walk into a Walmart with my AR slung across my shoulder and you happened to get the call, how would you handle the situation?

[Kevin]

Why not?

I have about 100 responses to this but instead of that, I'll just say it's the pro-gun rights equivalent of a school district zero tolerance policy. Common sense goes a long way.

People that aren't familiar with guns aren't comfortable buying crackers beside someone open carrying an AR. It this day and age, it tells me the person is a zealot. (And I love guns and support gun ownership) If you think this will make them more comfortable with guns, then you are wrong. There are much better and more effective ways of handling it.

[JP Weld]

And you would go to jail .

This..

[Bumpy]

I cannot believe the ignorance of the law involved here or the ignorance of the protection of our basic constitutional rights that some people seem to want to trample on because they are afraid.

This person may have been stupid but he was legal. Stop him and you will be next.

Just my opinion.

agree 100%

[txsowslayer]

These guys who are exercising their rights to open carry are putting LEOs in a bad spot. If they are called in on, we have to respond and investigate. When I go to disarm them during our encounter, they are going to try to argue that it is their right to carry, blah blah blah. I'm going to draw down on them and disarm them until my investigation is over because I don't know these people from Adam and I'm going home at the end of the night (re: action is quicker than reaction). Then I'm going to try to explain to them that
1) I know it's their right to carry a long gun in the open as long as the property owner doesn't care
2) I have to investigate every call I'm dispatched to and I have to try to the best of my abilities to determine if the suspect is a whack job who is thinking about committing a crime or just a guy exercising his rights.
3) if he is just a guy exercising his rights, he will be the first target that a real nut job will shoot first because he is making himself obvious that he is armed.

Once our conversation is over and my investigation is complete, his weapon will be returned in a safe manner and he will be allowed to go along his way.

These guys are wanting confrontation with law enforcement to put on YouTube and such. They need to put themselves in our shoes for a bit and think about how stupid their actions are and how often they freak out little old ladies, children, and soccer moms.

LEO’s continue to put themselves in a bad spot. Search YouTube for 15mins and you can watch plenty LEO's that don't understand the law nor do they care to understand the law. You escalating the contact by drawing your weapon when an individual has not presented their weapon in an alarming manner could spell disaster for you and the Citizen.
Not all these individuals are looking for a confrontation with “Law Enforcement” (what laws are you enforcing win the individual hasn’t broken any laws?). I understand your concern for your safety but as you stated “put themselves in our shoes” you should maybe try and do the same.
Would you disarm a street preacher of his bible? Probably not.

[txsowslayer]

I have about 100 responses to this but instead of that, I'll just say it's the pro-gun rights equivalent of a school district zero tolerance policy. Common sense goes a long way.

People that aren't familiar with guns aren't comfortable buying crackers beside someone open carrying an AR. It this day and age, it tells me the person is a zealot. (And I love guns and support gun ownership) If you think this will make them more comfortable with guns, then you are wrong. There are much better and more effective ways of handling it.

I keep hearing this "in this day and age" stuff and frankly it is ridiculous. No where in the Constitution does it state anything about your "comfort". However, it does say that your right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If that makes me a zealot I guess I will happily continue being a Zealot of the Constitution!

Here is a question for you... Do you agree with a Voting Tax? Do you agree with tax on practicing religon? Probably not... So why support a "CHL license" program? Isn't it essentially a "tax" on your 2A rights?

[txsowslayer]

I disagree. How on earth do you think walking around inside of a Walmart with an AR-15 could possibly be good for responsible gun owners? To me that says a very irresponsible person has a gun in a store, because no person would half a brain would think that's a good idea.

You have been brainwashed by the liberal media evidently... Who cares if it is an AR15, AK47, 30/30, etc??? The fact is it is a legal action. You don't have to agree with it but the fact remains the same.