What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

[txsowslayer]

Oh, I don't know. Maybe not walking around acting like a badarse would be close to that line.

Offer something educated. I really would like to know what you think sensible gun ownership/rights are? Is it rifles only designed for killing game? No more than 10rd magazines? Background checks for all? Something?

[BIG IRON]

Believe you are right all that you want. I will continue to believe that I'm right. But honestly half of what you just said applies to you....

Ah, the old "I'm rubber, you are glue" tactic. You are a genius sir. I think Yale has an opening on their debate team.

[twobanger]

I don't see how this case has any bearing on most situations.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? The poster I quoted said he felt just open carrying a gun in public was cause for alarm. I simply showed that legally in Texas that isn't the case.

[Daniel75]

Read Plummer vs State.

Lmao! So.....reading between the lines, you're saying you would use force against an unlawful (in your eyes) arrest, I assume you're saying an unlawful seizure of your gun by a police officer during a temporary detention? Well.....you go ahead and do that and let me know how it turns out for you. I know most hospital rooms have wifi nowadays.

[txsowslayer]

I argue with people like you on the internet. You see a bunch of patriots exercising their rights. The other 90% of us, elite liberals included, see people that are one musket shy of a militia

I suspect it isn't much of an argument that you make. Considering you haven't offered any educated remarks.

[BIG IRON]

Offer something educated. I really would like to know what you think sensible gun ownership/rights are? Is it rifles only designed for killing game? No more than 10rd magazines? Background checks for all? Something?

All of it. But but an organized protest where guys walk in a circle chanting "this is my rifle, this is my gun" are a huge waste of time and energy. They do nothing to advance gun rights. Zero.
All a guy walking through Walmart with a rifle over his shoulder does is make people that are indifferent to the gun debate wonder if we are all like that.

Mark my words, one day one of y'all's little ego trip demonstrations are going to end badly. Right or wrong on your part, the media will turn it into the second coming of David Corresh.

[txsowslayer]

Ah, the old "I'm rubber, you are glue" tactic. You are a genius sir. I think Yale has an opening on their debate team.

Am I wrong? You keyboard commando insults and name calling without offering an educated thought...

[mwinter501]

I understand you arguement and believe it is one some with merit. However, what are you doing to ensure my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids 2A remain?

Have you been to an Open Carry rally? By your above description of what you "think goes on" I would have to guess No. These rally's are very peaceful. Weapon safety has been and will continue to be the most important thing. No one is waving a firearm in anyones face. There has never been a verbal confrontation with any non supporters.

I'll admit that I have not willfully attended any rallies myself. I have been put in situations to contact people there. It's hard for me, because I'm a huge gun nut and I know that most people there see me as a guy who woke up in the morning and said "OK, let's see who's rights I can infringe today!!" It's not true. I HATE having to be that guy, but it's what the people of my town want me to do. The demonstrations I have been to have been generally peaceful, but tend to get verbally combative before I can even get a word out. If I'm called there, I have to make contact with people. All I ever expect to say is like a spoof of Dumb And Dumber: "open carry demonstration, huh? Alright! Well, see ya later!" But people's first reactions to me have put a sour taste in my mouth I suppose. But that youse to show that not all open carry advocates are overly confrontational just like all cops aren't power hungry d bags.

To answer the other question, all I can say I do is encourage safe gun ownership to all I come in contact with and I'm a member of the NRA (No that I really believe that's doing much anyway, but I'll save that discussion for another day). I'm just against the idea that we must do SOMETHING, whether it helps or hurts our cause. You see many issues in Washington being brought up this way. No one has a good plan on how to fix the problem, but we have to do something whether it helps or not.

I believe holding the media more accountable for their one sited reporting would go a long way to change many peoples ill-conceived notions about guns. Just my opinion.

Please excuse any grammatical errors.

[txsowslayer]

I'll admit that I have not willfully attended any rallies myself. I have been put in situations to contact people there. It's hard for me, because I'm a huge gun nut and I know that most people there see me as a guy who woke up in the morning and said "OK, let's see who's rights I can infringe today!!" It's not true. I HATE having to be that guy, but it's what the people of my town want me to do. The demonstrations I have been to have been generally peaceful, but tend to get verbally combative before I can even get a word out. If I'm called there, I have to make contact with people. All I ever expect to say is like a spoof of Dumb And Dumber: "open carry demonstration, huh? Alright! Well, see ya later!" But people's first reactions to me have put a sour taste in my mouth I suppose. But that youse to show that not all open carry advocates are overly confrontational just like all cops aren't power hungry d bags.

To answer the other question, all I can say I do is encourage safe gun ownership to all I come in contact with and I'm a member of the NRA (No that I really believe that's doing much anyway, but I'll save that discussion for another day). I'm just against the idea that we must do SOMETHING, whether it helps or hurts our cause. You see many issues in Washington being brought up this way. No one has a good plan on how to fix the problem, but we have to do something whether it helps or not.

I believe holding the media more accountable for their one sited reporting would go a long way to change many peoples ill-conceived notions about guns. Just my opinion.

Please excuse any grammatical errors.

[Mike D]

The dangers LEO's face daily are no different than the average person on the street. However, the precentage of criminals they face daily (percentage wise ) is greater. If you don't believe that a "law abiding" citizen should be able to open carry and long arm (side arm for that matter as well) just come out and say it. Please don't hide behind the safety of the situation and how you don't know if they are criminals etc... The truth is your life is no more important than mine or my family (sorry but true) and if carrying a firearm openly or concealed allows me to be better prepared to defend them then that is what I shall do.

Well said.

[Ironman]

Am I wrong? You keyboard commando insults and name calling without offering an educated thought...

I have given you several educated thoughts, and you choose to think you can change public perception. That in itself seems like you can't comprehend educated thoughts.

[txsowslayer]

All of it. But but an organized protest where guys walk in a circle chanting "this is my rifle, this is my gun" are a huge waste of time and energy. They do nothing to advance gun rights. Zero.
All a guy walking through Walmart with a rifle over his shoulder does is make people that are indifferent to the gun debate wonder if we are all like that.

Mark my words, one day one of y'all's little ego trip demonstrations are going to end badly. Right or wrong on your part, the media will turn it into the second coming of David Corresh.

Koresh... I haven't attended a rally/demonstration where that has been a chant muttered once. You support background checks? 10rd magazine limits? 1 arrow in your quiver?

[txsowslayer]

I have given you several educated thoughts, and you choose to think you can change public perception. That in itself seems like you can't comprehend educated thoughts.

Please quote one... I'm not educated enough to scroll up or hit the page up and down button.

[Artos]

Daniel75

Well said and again I completely agree.

And I love my guns and have a huge extra wide safe full of them....but again. There is a time and place for everything

That is what i don't understand...there are not many more pro-gun / 2nd amnd guys than myself, but those of us putting up the good fight should have some sense when we are representing all gun owners.

Guys, you do not sweep people with your muzzle with an unloaded gun (My guess this would not get you thrown in jail, but kicked out of your gun club)

You also should not walk into any public retail store without the action open inside a sealed case...why does the legality come into play if it's the right thing to do?? Gunshows are the only place I can think of where this does not raise any concern. Even shooting ranges want you to enter and leave with all weapons cased / bagged!!

Those who choose to act puffed up just because 'the law' says it's legal in this case does not mean you are asking for problems or making the right decision to openly carry in a very public place with some very recent scary shootings. Pick you battles gents...this is not that complicated.

I can make you a promise if all gun owners started carrying their empty long guns everywhere they went into public places, the law would be changed quickly due to foolishness...good grief, some of you just throw the baby out with the bath water & choose the weirdest mountains to die on??

Every action gun owners take will be used by the antis against us...what Howard witnessed is not helpful or does it have one positive arguement to encourage the behavior. Forget about the law & focus on the future / common sense actions we gun owners should use to help our cause. Using the blind blabber of 'im legal' is not going to help steer the bus in the right directions with stories like this.

[Ironman]

Please quote one... I'm not educated enough to scroll up or hit the page up and down button.

You said it, not I.