What would you do- Guy walks in Walmart with assult gun

[Ironman]

I can only imagine the internal criticizm the Founding Fathers received for their ideas of our country.

Where do you draw the line on sensible gun ownership?

How about standing up for that right, and not drawing undo attention to that right by running around with a long gun in public. Simple!

[mwinter501]

Sir, If you want to keep and get back the rights that have been lost being silently won't do it. We need to stand up for ourselves. Quit being afraid that you will offend someone. Do what is right and fight to keep our rights. Conservatives in general have played nice for to long. We should never be proud of being called the "silent majority". After all we all know the squeaky wheel gets the oil first.

That's part of the problem here, many people see only two possible actions: be silent and let rights erode, or stand in front of Walmart with rifles attempting to "educate" the citizenry. We both have the same goal in mind, it may be hard to see, but it's true. My point is our rights are not concrete, and they will be taken away by the people that use your "demonstration" to vilify gun rights advocates. Why give them more ammo (see what I did there ) to make us look bad? It's not about being silent, it's about knowing how the 2nd A enemies have been winning for the past decades and stop helping them by clamoring in the streets waving guns in their face. No one is changing anyone's minds by acting that way. It's about analyzing the situation and trying to be smart about it.

I don't keen to cause anyone here any offense, this is just my belief on the most effective means to our mutual end.

[Ironman]

My friends and family are very receptive about open carry and most of the people I have encountered are as well. Maybe you are on the wrong side of this Civil Rights debate.

Wrong side? How about not being a nuisance.

[BIG IRON]

Have you ever carried an AK into a Walmart before?

Have you ever attended a Pro-Abortion rally?

Have you ever attended a Clan rally?

Have you ever protested the State for the legalization of weed?

Ever picket your employer for unfair wages?


Just because its within your rights doesn't make it right all the time.


I take my 3 girls for bike rides all the time in the subdivision. We get pretty spread out sometimes.

If I saw a guy walking down the street with any rifle strapped over his shoulder I can guarantee you the first thought that enters my mind won't be this guy is just exercising his rights, no worries.

Sir, If you want to keep and get back the rights that have been lost being silently won't do it. We need to stand up for ourselves. Quit being afraid that you will offend someone. Do what is right and fight to keep our rights. Conservatives in general have played nice for to long. We should never be proud of being called the "silent majority". After all we all know the squeaky wheel gets the oil first.

Yes, and the best way to keep your rights is to join up with a bunch of other like- minded tool bags, throw on some pseudo combat fatigues, grab your guns and go walk in a circle and make a spectacle of yourselves. Bonus points for getting footage of police officers doing their jobs so you can post it on the net and shower comments of righteous indignation in y'all's lame little on line echo chamber.

[Daniel75]

Let me first start off by saying Thank you for choosing to do a job that could be harmful to your health. I'm sure you see the scum of the earth daily.

However, If you would like to compare resumes' "BUD" we can but I assure you that my previous 11 yrs of employment were very similiar to yours in the aspect of encountering individuals that would rather see me dead instead of alive.

I agree with you on the fact that most CHL holders are responsible, law abiding citizens and I think research would prove the same. I will also say that most gun owners (specifically open carry participants) are exactly the same responsible, law abiding citizens as the CHL holders. Also, I'm not arguing the your "legal" authority to disarm someone when they have committed a crime or have been "suspected" of committing a crime. However, I do take exception to many LEO's who believe they are the law and that their "right" to safety trumps my Constitutional right to bear arms.

I wish the LEO's that are critical to the behavior of 2A and Open Carry activists would look in the mirror for a moment and reflect on why they actually have a job. Could it because we are nation of laws? Laws that should be upheld and where criminals are brought to justice. Absolutely. So get out there and bring criminals to justice.

Well, you'll have to argue with the SCOTUS on that, because my safety does temporarily trump your constitutional right to bear arms, regardless of if you think you've committed a crime or not. I can ask you to step out of a vehicle for my safety, I can make you stay inside the vehicle for my safety, I can make you sit down for my safety, what makes you think you can't have a rifle taken from you temporarily for my safety?

Just because we have a right to freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything you want without consequences. In other words, it's not an ABSOLUTE right and interpreted in its literal meaning. Like yelling "fire" in a movie theater or cussing someone out. If they're offended, you've committed a crime. Just because you have a right to bear arms, doesn't mean you have a right to have them at any time under any circumstances. Being detained by the police is enough to have your gun taken away, even temporarily and that isn't a violation of your rights. Sorry but it's not. When the encounter is over, you can have your gun back if you've committed no crime and aren't going to jail. It really is very simple.

[Ironman]

That's part of the problem here, many people see only two possible actions: be silent and let rights erode, or stand in front of Walmart with rifles attempting to "educate" the citizenry. We both have the same goal in mind, it may be hard to see, but it's true. My point is our rights are not concrete, and they will be taken away by the people that use your "demonstration" to vilify gun rights advocates. Why give them more ammo (see what I did there ) to make us look bad? It's not about being silent, it's about knowing how the 2nd A enemies have been winning for the past decades and stop helping them by clamoring in the streets waving guns in their face. No one is changing anyone's minds by acting that way. It's about analyzing the situation and trying to be smart about it.

I don't keen to cause anyone here any offense, this is just my belief on the most effective means to our mutual end.

Very well said, not that everyone here can comprehend it.

[txsowslayer]

That's part of the problem here, many people see only two possible actions: be silent and let rights erode, or stand in front of Walmart with rifles attempting to "educate" the citizenry. We both have the same goal in mind, it may be hard to see, but it's true. My point is our rights are not concrete, and they will be taken away by the people that use your "demonstration" to vilify gun rights advocates. Why give them more ammo (see what I did there ) to make us look bad? It's not about being silent, it's about knowing how the 2nd A enemies have been winning for the past decades and stop helping them by clamoring in the streets waving guns in their face. No one is changing anyone's minds by acting that way. It's about analyzing the situation and trying to be smart about it.

I don't keen to cause anyone here any offense, this is just my belief on the most effective means to our mutual end.

I understand you arguement and believe it is one some with merit. However, what are you doing to ensure my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids 2A remain?

Have you been to an Open Carry rally? By your above description of what you "think goes on" I would have to guess No. These rally's are very peaceful. Weapon safety has been and will continue to be the most important thing. No one is waving a firearm in anyones face. There has never been a verbal confrontation with any non supporters.

[Dallas8237]

Your resume has nothing to do with what you posted. People are their own worst enemy. A little common sense goes a long way. And if some dude is walking around with both hands on an assault rifle and finger ON the trigger that IS a threat. If you know anything about lag time you know that. Slung just hanging, that's a different story. If you really think the dangers LEOs face daily are no different than the "average" citizen face everyday, there is no point in discussing anymore.

[txsowslayer]

Yes, and the best way to keep your rights is to join up with a bunch of other like- minded tool bags, throw on some pseudo combat fatigues, grab your guns and go walk in a circle and make a spectacle of yourselves. Bonus points for getting footage of police officers doing their jobs so you can post it on the net and shower comments of righteous indignation in y'all's lame little on line echo chamber.

Wow... very poetic. Like the liberal elite you resort to their tactic of name calling when you have nothing educated to say. Thanks.

[BIG IRON]

I can only imagine the internal criticizm the Founding Fathers received for their ideas of our country.

Where do you draw the line on sensible gun ownership?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe not walking around acting like a badarse would be close to that line.

[txsowslayer]

Well, you'll have to argue with the SCOTUS on that, because my safety does temporarily trump your constitutional right to bear arms, regardless of if you think you've committed a crime or not. I can ask you to step out of a vehicle for my safety, I can make you stay inside the vehicle for my safety, I can make you sit down for my safety, what makes you think you can't have a rifle taken from you temporarily for my safety?

Just because we have a right to freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything you want without consequences. In other words, it's not an ABSOLUTE right and interpreted in its literal meaning. Like yelling "fire" in a movie theater or cussing someone out. If they're offended, you've committed a crime. Just because you have a right to bear arms, doesn't mean you have a right to have them at any time under any circumstances. Being detained by the police is enough to have your gun taken away, even temporarily and that isn't a violation of your rights. Sorry but it's not. When the encounter is over, you can have your gun back if you've committed no crime and aren't going to jail. It really is very simple.

Read Plummer vs State.

[BIG IRON]

Wow... very poetic. Like the liberal elite you resort to their tactic of name calling when you have nothing educated to say. Thanks.

Take out the tool bag comment and I am still right.

[txsowslayer]

Your resume has nothing to do with what you posted. People are their own worst enemy. A little common sense goes a long way. And if some dude is walking around with both hands on an assault rifle and finger ON the trigger that IS a threat. If you know anything about lag time you know that. Slung just hanging, that's a different story. If you really think the dangers LEOs face daily are no different than the "average" citizen face everyday, there is no point in discussing anymore.

Sir, I think you have been lost in the conversation... Please scroll to the beginning of this thread to see my comments on the action of the individual this thread was orginally started for.

[txsowslayer]

Take out the tool bag comment and I am still right.

Believe you are right all that you want. I will continue to believe that I'm right. But honestly half of what you just said applies to you....

[BIG IRON]

I understand you arguement and believe it is one some with merit. However, what are you doing to ensure my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids 2A remain?

Have you been to an Open Carry rally? By your above description of what you "think goes on" I would have to guess No. These rally's are very peaceful. Weapon safety has been and will continue to be the most important thing. No one is waving a firearm in anyones face. There has never been a verbal confrontation with any non supporters.

I argue with people like you on the internet. You see a bunch of patriots exercising their rights. The other 90% of us, elite liberals included, see people that are one musket shy of a militia