Lease rule question?

[wow]

Guest have to sit with the hunter and they hunt off of the hunters tags. I do have extra for the childrens.

[Cull]

On our lease anyone can shoot it but it counts against your total.

[Eric Pence]

[QUOTE=ty729;7832093]Trophy's are paid hunter only with the exception our immediate family such as spouses and dependent children. Not a 25 year old "kid"!

Yeah we had a Jack-Wagon start bringing his 36 yr old son ,because we said kids were allowed...He was not asked back after that season.

[BSOB]

Our lease is a points system. You start the year with an allotment of points. Trophy WT 1000 points, trophy axis 1000 points, trophy BlackBuck 1200, trophy sika 800, WT doe 100, etc. You can mix and match. You can go over your starting points by buying more. Basically it works out that you can shoot 1 trophy WT and 1 Trophy exotic with your allotment. Last year I killed a 10 and a 12 point WT trophy instead of an exotic.

Guests use your points when they shoot something. Family or friends are ok but paid member has to be at the lease if they are.

Please explain this system in detail for us. Seems pretty cool.

Thanks for sharing

[ColinR]

PM inbound to all those that said guests can shoot trophy bucks at your place!!!

[Todd-ty729]

[quote=Eric Pence;7832353]

Trophy's are paid hunter only with the exception our immediate family such as spouses and dependent children. Not a 25 year old "kid"!

Yeah we had a Jack-Wagon start bringing his 36 yr old son ,because we said kids were allowed...He was not asked back after that season.

To clarify a bit, a dependent can be a son or daughter that is in college. Basically if you are claiming that kid on your taxes then that would be what we are trying to stay at.

We had a member early on that decided his 25 year old son could come and hunt as a kid. The young man didn't live with him and had a job and regular life.

Another members son hunted as immediate family all the way through his college years.

Our deer numbers are way down this year, I suppose due to the 2011 drought. Therefore we have practically eliminated any guests hunting and shooting deer. We just don't "need" the help with keeping the numbers in check this year.

[TigerBob]

On ours, each member is allowed 1 buck (we are on antler restrictions). Therefore if your guest kills your buck, you're done buck hunting. If both you and your guest kill a buck, it's penalty time, and you probably won't be invited back next year. This way we strictly manage the number of mature bucks being harvested.

[esp]

I think it would be ok for a guest to shoot a buck only of they are hunting with you and it counts against your allowed deer..

This is how it is at my lease.

[Atfulldraw]

it is supposed to be fun.....

Why on earth anyone would set it up so only the member can kill the deer is beyond me......

Does it really matter who pulled the trigger?

[Todd-ty729]

it is supposed to be fun.....

Why on earth anyone would set it up so only the member can kill the deer is beyond me......

Does it really matter who pulled the trigger?

The way I look at it is if a deer walks out (trophy or nice management type mature 8pt) and that paid member elects not to shoot it but would be willing to let a non-immediate family member shoot it, then I would rather have another paid member have the chance to take it later on in the season.

The main reason we pay to hunt is to shoot a nice deer, at least that is the excuse we tell ourselves!

The members that pay the money should be the ones that have the last say in taking bucks!

Paid members come before guests.

[Rex]

The way I look at it is if a deer walks out (trophy or nice management type mature 8pt) and that paid member elects not to shoot it but would be willing to let a non-immediate family member shoot it, then I would rather have another paid member have the chance to take it later on in the season.

The main reason we pay to hunt is to shoot a nice deer, at least that is the excuse we tell ourselves!

The members that pay the money should be the ones that have the last say in taking bucks!

Paid members come before guests.

This would fall in line....

Let's say you have a trophy quality buck on your game cam that is bigger than any deer you have harvest to date but he don't show up when your there but he comes all the time. Let's just say talking to another member and comparing notes...he/she also has the same deer on camera several times. The other member doesn't want to shoot that buck cause they have shot bigger deer in the past. However, they would like there guest to shoot that buck?

Opinions?

[30-30]

On ours if you bring a guest and allow them to shoot it, then it counts towards you deer kill total

This is the only fair way to do it, imo.

[Dejashoot]

Please explain this system in detail for us. Seems pretty cool.

Thanks for sharing

Not much more to it. We have three separate "bills". One is for feed (year round protein / corn) and feeders. If there is money left from feed at the end of season we get leftovers back. One bill is for electric/cabin use/water/portalet. Third is the actual lease cost.

Lease price is equal to buying points. You have a base amount that allows you to basically take 2 trophies. Can be 2 exotics, 2 WT or 1 Wt and 1 exotic. Pigs and yotes are free and so are blackbuck does. 100 points for turkeys and does of any species. 1 axis per family as we are trying to grow that heard. We also have approved cull deer that are free and usually shot by the kids.

If you are a trophy hunter it works out great. You get two trophies. If you are a meat hunter, your family and friends can put 10 does in the freezer. Or like most people, you can kill your trophy and fill the freezer and have a great time.

If you shoot a trophy wt and a trophy exotic and mr big walks out, you can take him too - you just just have to pay for a third trophy.

[Todd-ty729]

Not much more to it. We have three separate "bills". One is for feed (year round protein / corn) and feeders. If there is money left from feed at the end of season we get leftovers back. One bill is for electric/cabin use/water/portalet. Third is the actual lease cost.

Lease price is equal to buying points. You have a base amount that allows you to basically take 2 trophies. Can be 2 exotics, 2 WT or 1 Wt and 1 exotic. Pigs and yotes are free and so are blackbuck does. 100 points for turkeys and does of any species. 1 axis per family as we are trying to grow that heard. We also have approved cull deer that are free and usually shot by the kids.

If you are a trophy hunter it works out great. You get two trophies. If you are a meat hunter, your family and friends can put 10 does in the freezer. Or like most people, you can kill your trophy and fill the freezer and have a great time.

If you shoot a trophy wt and a trophy exotic and mr big walks out, you can take him too - you just just have to pay for a third trophy.

This is very interesting!

So what would happen to the extra trophy funds?

[Thumper]

Guest have to sit with the hunter and they hunt off of the hunters tags. I do have extra for the childrens.

This^^^^

Just have to make sure the count stays right over the entire season. Wife shoots a buck then two weeks later when that hunter is on the lease by himself really big buck walks out, what happens? He's still got his tags.