Using the term "management" or "cull"

[thorshammer]

Sometimes it seems to be code for "I know this buck is not a trophy, I call it a cull as my excuse for shooting it" I think that line of thinking is ridiculous - who cares what others think - if it is legal and you want to shoot it, shoot it![/QUOTE]



I think this rings true for some on here.

It's funny to hear the write ups on LDP's sometimes, and you can tell the excitement is there, but they are holding back. I think mostly because they don't want the GS to think they are excited about killing "that" deer.

[MQ32Shooter]

All I know is, most of the pics I've seen on the GS of management and cull bucks, look like trophies of a lifetime to me.

[txnduckhntr]

Sometimes it seems to be code for "I know this buck is not a trophy, I call it a cull as my excuse for shooting it" I think that line of thinking is ridiculous - who cares what others think - if it is legal and you want to shoot it, shoot it!

I think this rings true for some on here.

It's funny to hear the write ups on LDP's sometimes, and you can tell the excitement is there, but they are holding back. I think mostly because they don't want the GS to think they are excited about killing "that" deer.[/QUOTE]


Well said

[175gr7.62]

Our place in East Texas is intensely managed. We classify any deer that still has spots as management deer and we give them a pass for one year to see what color brown they end up developing. Anything that is not brown gets culled as we don't want any undesirable color shades breeding. Now, if it's a solid brown color at any age, that's what we are looking for in our trophies and do everything we can to kill them.

[MQ32Shooter]

Our place in East Texas is intensely managed. We classify any deer that still has spots as management deer and we give them a pass for one year to see what color brown they end up developing. Anything that is not brown gets culled as we don't want any undesirable color shades breeding. Now, if it's a solid brown color at any age, that's what we are looking for in our trophies and do everything we can to kill them.

This is what most of us "have not's" do!

[Dale]

I have never really gotten the concept myself and yes maybe that is because I have never been able to afford to hunt a place that classified deer by monetary/trophy value.

I believe it started when hunting for alot of people became a contest as opposed to a way of life. Used to be people just hunted because that was the life style they grew up in and enjoyed. Now days more and more people(those that will admit anyway) base the success of a hunt on the antler score. Of course that led to the need for away to classify deer by antler size(score).

How many here remember when you asked someone how they did after a hunt and the response was not a score but simply how many points it had?

[SwampRabbit]

How many here remember when you asked someone how they did after a hunt and the response was not a score but simply how many points it had?

I got a late start in life at hunting. But growing up, I knew folks that hunted and anytime you heard them talk it was about the number of points and how much it weighed.

[OPC Patrick]

I think mostly because they don't want the GS to think they are excited about killing "that" deer.

Amen... Or hear "it needed one more year"

[bowhunterhelm]

Cull, mature buck only producing 6pts. I don't want him breeding does.

[John Paul]

I think most people classify in the post is because the types of lease they are on.
i.e, lease spot can take one trophy over 150inches, One Mang buck, under 150 and mature and any culls that have any undesirable traits. Sometimes one might post score and age please? Part of the time they are trying to cover their but before pulling the trigger, trust me shooting a 3yr old 10 point that went 150 2/8ths may not earn you any brownie points with your hunten buddies. Always best to get as many eyes on that deer and try and classify him so one can stick to lease Mang. Rules. JMO

[Limbwalker]

How many here remember when you asked someone how they did after a hunt and the response was not a score but simply how many points it had?

Yup.

[JackFlash]

Cull to me is a term more for 3-4 year old deer. They aren't displaying qualities we want early so we cull them out.

Management would be used for a 5+ year old deer that showed enough potential not to be culled but just didn't turn out and isn't or won't end up as one of the top deer in his age class.

^^^^^^^
this

[JackFlash]

Yup.

I remember that. pre 90's that's how it was done. more points, more trophy!

[d_e_smith]

I the cull/mgmt buck terms flung around on places where seeing deer above 3.5yo is like finding a needle in a haystack.

[SwampRabbit]

Thanks for all the feedback. I guess it seems that a lot of people have adapted to using the marketing lingo that high dollar or variable fee based ranches use when describing the deer they take off of thier own private lease. In some cases it could be they are using the same program/idealogy so it makes sense to use the same terminology, but for some it is just based off of perception and what they see on TV, etc.

For me, I would prefer to manage for herd age, not antlers. I have more control over age than the horns. Where I hunt I don't think it makes sense to try and worry about antlers and genetics, we don't pay enough to have those guarantees of control over those factors. Do I keep the horns? Yes, why? because it helps me remember the hunt and the particular deer.

So, when just managing the age, there really isn't a concept of "management" bucks or "cull" just a "shooter" and a "not old enough."