Tuthdoc scoring

[ShockValue]

Seems like Tuthdoc had a thread about the up/down way to field score bucks.

I just spent a bunch of time going thru his threads (if you have time, do yourself a favor and search threads started by Tuthdoc ) but I couldnt find the thread that i was thinking about.

Any oldtimers know what im talking about?

[Dejashoot]

If memory serves me right, "down" is spread, main and mass. "up" is score of tines

[bdphunt]

I remember it but not specifics.

I might be wrong but I think down was mass and beam length maybe. On a normal looking deer I think it was like 95 down and then add the length of up tines for the up score.

Although I might be way off

I would love to know what it was exactly. It's a good quick way to score on the hoof.

[Chance Love]

Down = mass, beams, spread

Up = tines

If you can figure out the average down score of the deer in your area, you can use that number as a starting point. Then just quickly judge tune length and add that to the "down" number. Pretty quick way to score and you usually get pretty close.

[Fishndude]

If memory serves me right, "down" is spread, main and mass. "up" is score of tines

This^^^ and for the average good deer in his area, he always started at 90"

[myway]

I use 85 down + the tine length for up and it has worked good for me on a mature deer for most of nw texas.

[Dejashoot]

And for the record, Tuthdoc was amazin at picking up on the subtle differences most of us didn't see in deer. He had mad on the hoof scoring skills and the ability to explain exactly what and why. Sure miss his insight.

[WCB]

This^^^ and for the average good deer in his area, he always started at 90"

so deer in my area would be about 20 down??

Seriously, I remember that scoring method now that you mention it. I just need some good bucks to actually try it on. Maybe my H hunt would be a good place to try...

[ShockValue]

Down = mass, beams, spread

Up = tines

If you can figure out the average down score of the deer in your area, you can use that number as a starting point. Then just quickly judge tune length and add that to the "down" number. Pretty quick way to score and you usually get pretty close.

What do you use on the down in Brady....on regular deer....not 8pt freaks.

[Mailman]

Here you go fellas, I found this is in the archives from Cull...

I assume any deer that's going to make 125 meet a certain criteria. In other words, any 12 inch deer with 6 points ain't gonna make it. So, what I look for is an average down. Measurements that most deer that make 125 will meet or exceed. Those measurements are 15 inches inside, 20 inch beams, and 25 inches in mass. That'll give him 80 inches "down". When the deer comes in, and you wonder if he's 125, you should be able to tell if he's "80 down" instantly. Add up his points in your head. If he's "45 up", then he's 125. If it's close, then see instantly if there's anything that goes over or under the starting point measurements "down". In other words, if you can count 45 inches "up" and you're afraid to shoot, then look at his spread. Is it greater than 15, if so you're probably safe. If his mass is better, then you can add a few inches.

That's how I do it. Sounds complicated, but it works pretty quickly once you know what your "80 down" looks like. If it's close, always underguess when adding. It'll keep you out of how water. If you think a tine is 8 or 9 inches, go 8.

For S Tx deer, I start at 95 then add the tines. If I'm looking to score a potential deer to shoot then I have already decided it is a "mature" deer. As such, I have built in a few averages. Avg spread in S Tx 18's, avg beams 22"s, avg mass 32"s. I can make adjustments to 95 (I give the deer an extra inch to make myself feel he is bigger ). If I think he's 20 inside then I satrt at 97 etc. This base number should come pretty fast 5-7 seconds. Then I start adding tine length on one side and multiple by 2 assuming he matches ( 5" brow, 10" G-2, 8" G-3, 4" G-4 = 27"s x 2= 54). Add 95 to 54 and viola 149. Any kickers go on top. You can get close within 10-15 seconds. Come up with a "average" for your area.

[ShockValue]

Thanks Mailman! Thats that post i was looking for!

I never knew the man but still think of the wisdom and knowledge that he shared here!

[TexMax]

I brought this up in another post and got made fun of . I use 80 in my neck of the woods.

[bdphunt]

I remember it but not specifics.

I might be wrong but I think down was mass and beam length maybe. On a normal looking deer I think it was like 95 down and then add the length of up tines for the up score.

Although I might be way off

I would love to know what it was exactly. It's a good quick way to score on the hoof.

See exactly what I said. Start with 80 down. I was only a lot off. Ha

[Texas Grown]

This was something I always challenged my self too when someone else (mostly TD) was posting picks. Thanks to Mailman, I got a clue on how to do it. Glad to see this up here so others can do it too! . I remember TD once saying, his photo up load limit had been reached, and he had to clear some out before he could upload/post some more .

[Corner-tang]

nice way to quick score