I wanted to share this and see what you guys thought. This is by no means dogging LEO's. I respect everybody until they disrespect me, and have much appreciation and respect for leo's. I still respect this one even tho this went down...
I shared this with a guy kind of around a campfire/drinking type situation, and he told me I should report the cop. So that got me thinking. Was this LEO WRONG!? as the guy I was conversating with said...
Ill try to keep it short.
I was selling a jeep. 89 2 door XJ. 31" mt's 12 subs/4 KC lights. 4.0L auto WITH WORKING A/C... red top optima battery 2 months old. new breaks etc
Anyway. Kid calls me and says he wants to see the jeep. OK. give him my address. Him and his dad shows up. Kid (17 or 18) takes jeep for ride with A/C on and everything. My and his dad BS. His dad is kind of interrogating me. What do I do for a living bla bla bla. I am an open person. I share what I do, and I am prior military etc.
Kid comes back. he likes it. Him and his dad leave. Kid calls me back. "can my mechanic look at it". Yes I reply. BY ALL MEANS! BUT, you are not taking my truck across town where you live without your own insurance bla bla bla. Mechanic can come here.
No problem he says. Well a week goes by. Kid calls said mechanic is gonna swing by on the way to coast. GREAT. (I live right off 37). NO MECHANIC.
Next morning kid calls me. I want to buy the jeep. Can I pick it up today? I said what happened with your mechanic needing to look at it. He never showed up. Kid gave an excuse. I said ok, its AS IS.
Had it up for 2300. kid says will you take 1800? I didnt want to go below 2k, but he was obviously in or just out of high school. So I cut him a break. Him and his GF show up and he gives me the money. I give him a spare altenator (when they got wet or muddy they would act stupid).
Fast forward one week. kid calls me when i am at mudfest. Hey I wanted to talk to you about the jeep. I said sure. (told him if he had questions or whatever to feel free to call). He said I want to return the Jeep. I said "RETURN THE JEEP"? I am not a car lot.
the next weekend kid and dad pull up in seperate cars at my house. I walked up freindly to them and put out my hand (to shake dads hand). He folded his arms (he was a big guy) and said. So you sold my son your Peice of **** jeep. You need to man up and have some integrity and return my sons money now!
OK! respect LOST!
I respond I dont think so. He said you sold him this POS bla bla bla and continued to knock my jeep. Then he went on about how I had in his opinion needed the money because I may be living above my means bla bla bla.
I said excuse me! ( I am not exactly a light weight or willing to put up with that in my own yard).
My chest may have pumped out and I said WHO THE #### are you to come to my yard and start to call me out etc... My wife comes out, and asks what the deal is the dad said none of your business you just go back inside. as I start to give him an earfull my wife goes off... Then I start getting madder and she backs me down, and says we are just gonna call the cops and let them deal with you.
THEN! The guy pulls out his SAPD badge, and says I am a cop, and you need to return my son his money.
I then said "I dont give a **** who you are! you need to get the #### off my property, and you are not welcome back!
He backed off a bit, and we went back and fourth (calming down) after 45 minutes of bickering went on. After tempers calmed and I explained my side of the story, and he found out how his son was working around truths and lying to his dad. The cop looks at his son and says is that so. the son nodded his head. The dad wanted to let his son have it but bit his tongue.
he then said. will you give my son 1500 back and keep the jeep. I walked over and looked at the mud under the truck, and door jams etc that was not there when I sold it and told him. So I am supposed to let your son get away with taking my truck offroading and do God knows what to it, and just take it back. He said 300 dollars should fix anything he may have broke.
I said the way you approached me today lost any chances of me taking this truck back and cutting you a deal. I also said and since you drove 40 miles to my side of town with the AC on and windows up in 100 degrees it isnt that big of a POS.
They left pretty upset...
2 hours later the Dad/Cop/Man calls me back, and says I want to appologize to you and your family for what happened this evenning. He stated that it was out of his charector, and that his son had not been honest with him about the whole situation.
I told him I accept his appology and forgive him, but will not take the jeep back. I told him had you approached me with respect I would have been willing you work with you... and that I am by no means hurting for money (not that I am rich).
I shared this with a guy kind of around a campfire/drinking type situation, and he told me I should report the cop. So that got me thinking. Was this LEO WRONG!? as the guy I was conversating with said...
Ill try to keep it short.
I was selling a jeep. 89 2 door XJ. 31" mt's 12 subs/4 KC lights. 4.0L auto WITH WORKING A/C... red top optima battery 2 months old. new breaks etc
Anyway. Kid calls me and says he wants to see the jeep. OK. give him my address. Him and his dad shows up. Kid (17 or 18) takes jeep for ride with A/C on and everything. My and his dad BS. His dad is kind of interrogating me. What do I do for a living bla bla bla. I am an open person. I share what I do, and I am prior military etc.
Kid comes back. he likes it. Him and his dad leave. Kid calls me back. "can my mechanic look at it". Yes I reply. BY ALL MEANS! BUT, you are not taking my truck across town where you live without your own insurance bla bla bla. Mechanic can come here.
No problem he says. Well a week goes by. Kid calls said mechanic is gonna swing by on the way to coast. GREAT. (I live right off 37). NO MECHANIC.
Next morning kid calls me. I want to buy the jeep. Can I pick it up today? I said what happened with your mechanic needing to look at it. He never showed up. Kid gave an excuse. I said ok, its AS IS.
Had it up for 2300. kid says will you take 1800? I didnt want to go below 2k, but he was obviously in or just out of high school. So I cut him a break. Him and his GF show up and he gives me the money. I give him a spare altenator (when they got wet or muddy they would act stupid).
Fast forward one week. kid calls me when i am at mudfest. Hey I wanted to talk to you about the jeep. I said sure. (told him if he had questions or whatever to feel free to call). He said I want to return the Jeep. I said "RETURN THE JEEP"? I am not a car lot.
the next weekend kid and dad pull up in seperate cars at my house. I walked up freindly to them and put out my hand (to shake dads hand). He folded his arms (he was a big guy) and said. So you sold my son your Peice of **** jeep. You need to man up and have some integrity and return my sons money now!
OK! respect LOST!
I respond I dont think so. He said you sold him this POS bla bla bla and continued to knock my jeep. Then he went on about how I had in his opinion needed the money because I may be living above my means bla bla bla.
I said excuse me! ( I am not exactly a light weight or willing to put up with that in my own yard).
My chest may have pumped out and I said WHO THE #### are you to come to my yard and start to call me out etc... My wife comes out, and asks what the deal is the dad said none of your business you just go back inside. as I start to give him an earfull my wife goes off... Then I start getting madder and she backs me down, and says we are just gonna call the cops and let them deal with you.
THEN! The guy pulls out his SAPD badge, and says I am a cop, and you need to return my son his money.
I then said "I dont give a **** who you are! you need to get the #### off my property, and you are not welcome back!
He backed off a bit, and we went back and fourth (calming down) after 45 minutes of bickering went on. After tempers calmed and I explained my side of the story, and he found out how his son was working around truths and lying to his dad. The cop looks at his son and says is that so. the son nodded his head. The dad wanted to let his son have it but bit his tongue.
he then said. will you give my son 1500 back and keep the jeep. I walked over and looked at the mud under the truck, and door jams etc that was not there when I sold it and told him. So I am supposed to let your son get away with taking my truck offroading and do God knows what to it, and just take it back. He said 300 dollars should fix anything he may have broke.
I said the way you approached me today lost any chances of me taking this truck back and cutting you a deal. I also said and since you drove 40 miles to my side of town with the AC on and windows up in 100 degrees it isnt that big of a POS.
They left pretty upset...
2 hours later the Dad/Cop/Man calls me back, and says I want to appologize to you and your family for what happened this evenning. He stated that it was out of his charector, and that his son had not been honest with him about the whole situation.
I told him I accept his appology and forgive him, but will not take the jeep back. I told him had you approached me with respect I would have been willing you work with you... and that I am by no means hurting for money (not that I am rich).
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