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    #91
    That was a good post Bill, the fundamental idea is the same but I’ve never heard of not brushing your teeth once leading to a million dollar medical bill.

    Yall remember this all came about in the Regan era when the ticket for politicians was to reduce the people’s dependency on government. This is one time it seemed to work, I haven’t heard anything about insurance reform from the Dem’s.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Legdog View Post

      Yowza....I wonder if she gets an insurance discount for those.....

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        #93
        Originally posted by Smart View Post
        Yowza....I wonder if she gets an insurance discount for those.....
        Wow...Like I said earlier... Seatbelts and Airbags go hand and hand....

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          #94
          It was the insurance companies whose lobbiest down in Austin in the early 80's who got the seat belt laws, the state didn't much care or there would have been law's on the books a lot earlier.

          Seat belt laws came after the insurance companies got the state to make it law for every one to have insurance, and again the state didn't care wheather or not a driver had insurance or there would have been law's on the books requiring drivers to have insurance years earlier.

          And from reading the Texas Occupant Restraint Laws, it say's you have to wear one but not how to wear it.

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            #95
            Originally posted by atexx2 View Post
            And from reading the Texas Occupant Restraint Laws, it say's you have to wear one but not how to wear it.
            I believe the law says it has to be used according to the manufacturers instructions.

            Trailboss

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              #96
              Originally posted by trailboss View Post
              I believe the law says it has to be used according to the manufacturers instructions.

              Trailboss
              Maybe you could please show me.


              Sec. 545.413. Safety Belts; Offense.
              a.A person commits an offense if:
              1.the person:
              A.is at least 15 years of age;
              B.is riding in [the front seat of] a passenger vehi*cle while the vehicle is being operated;
              C.is occupying a seat that is equipped with a safety belt; and
              D.is not secured by a safety belt; or
              2.as the operator of a school bus equipped with a safety belt for the operator's seat, the person is not se*cured by the safety belt.
              b.A person commits an offense if the person:
              1.operates a passenger vehicle that is equipped with safety belts; and
              2.allows a child who is younger than 17 years of age and who is not required to be secured in a child pas*senger safety seat system under Section 545.412(a) to ride in the vehicle without requiring the child to be secured by a safety belt, provided the child is occupying a seat that is equipped with a safety belt.
              (b-1) A person commits an offense if the person allows a child who is younger than 17 years of age and who is not required to be secured in a child passenger safety seat system under Section 545.412(a) to ride in a passen*ger van designed to transport 15 or fewer passengers, in*cluding the driver, without securing the child individually by a safety belt, if the child is occupying a seat that is equipped with a safety belt.
              c.A passenger vehicle or a seat in a passenger vehi*cle is considered to be equipped with a safety belt if the vehicle is required under Section 547.601 to be equipped with safety belts.
              d.An offense under Subsection (a) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not less than $25 or more than $50. An offense under Subsection (b) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not less than $100 or more than $200.
              e.It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
              1.the person possesses a written statement from a licensed physician stating that for a medical reason the person should not wear a safety belt;
              2.the person presents to the court, not later than the 10th day after the date of the offense, a statement from a licensed physician stating that for a medical reason the person should not wear a safety belt;
              3.the person is employed by the United States Postal Service and performing a duty for that agency that requires the operator to service postal boxes from a vehi*cle or that requires frequent entry into and exit from a ve*hicle;
              4.the person is engaged in the actual delivery of newspapers from a vehicle or is performing newspaper delivery duties that require frequent entry into and exit from a vehicle;
              5.the person is employed by a public or private util*ity company and is engaged in the reading of meters or performing a similar duty for that company requiring the operator to frequently enter into and exit from a vehicle; or
              6.The person is operating a commercial vehicle reg*istered as a farm vehicle under the provisions of Section 502.163 that does not have a gross weight, registered weight, or gross weight rating of 48,000 pounds or more.
              f.The department shall develop and implement an ed*ucational program to encourage the wearing of safety belts and to emphasize:
              1.the effectiveness of safety belts and other re*straint devices in reducing the risk of harm to passengers in motor vehicles; and
              2.the requirements of this section and the penalty for noncompliance.
              g.Repealed by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 204, Sec. 8.01.
              h.In this section, "passenger vehicle," "safety belt," and "secured" have the meanings assigned by Section 545.412.
              i.A judge, acting under Article 45.0511, Code of Crimi*nal Procedure, who elects to defer further proceedings and to place a defendant accused of a violation of Sub*section (b) on probation under that article, in lieu of requir*ing the defendant to complete a driving safety course approved by the Texas Education Agency, shall require the defendant to attend and present proof that the defen*dant has successfully completed a specialized driving safety course approved by the Texas Education Agency under the Texas Driver and Traffic Safety Education Act (Article 4413(29c), Vernon's Texas Civil Statutes) that in*cludes four hours of instruction that encourages the use of child passenger safety seat systems and the wearing of seat belts and emphasizes:
              1.the effectiveness of child passenger safety seat systems and seat belts in reducing the harm to children being transported in motor vehicles; and
              2.the requirements of this section and the penalty for noncompliance.
              j.Notwithstanding Section 542.402(a), a municipality or county, at the end of the municipality's or county's fiscal year, shall send to the comptroller an amount equal to 50percent of the fines collected by the municipality or thecounty for violations of Subsection (b) of this section. The comptroller shall deposit the amount received to the credit of the tertiary care fund for use by trauma centers.

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                #97
                Originally posted by atexx2 View Post
                Maybe you could please show me.
                Here ya go.

                Transportation code
                Sec 545.412
                (f)
                (4) "Secured," in connection with use of a safety belt, means using the lap belt and any shoulder straps according to the instructions of:

                (A) the manufacturer of the vehicle, if the safety belt is original equipment; or

                (B) the manufacturer of the safety belt, if the safety belt has been added to the vehicle.

                Trailboss

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                  #98
                  Thanks for pointing that out, I always use mine under the shoulder, but I will change.

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                    #99
                    I have always wondered why we don't have to take a defensive driving course to get our license and work toward stopping accidents instead of dealing with the aftermath of an accident.

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                      just buckle up!

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                        Originally posted by rainbow trout View Post
                        Just buckle up! It wont kill ya! It becomes a good habbit.
                        X2

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                          Got one on christmas day last year.. tell the judge you want deferred judification. they should do it and it wont go on your record. all you got to pay is court cost. i got mine from the dps

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                            so, a seat belt ticket is not a moving violation and will not go on your record... right?

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                              Originally posted by skeeter View Post
                              so, a seat belt ticket is not a moving violation and will not go on your record... right?

                              But if the insurance companies are making the laws and the insurance companies go up on your rates for moving violations, wouldn't that mean that......................

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