seatbelt ticket question

[Bily Lovec]

here ya go sport,
click >>>--------> do seatbelts save lives ?

[trailboss]

Regarding back seat passengers - NO ONE rides in the back seat of my cars without a seatbelt, regardless of the law. If I hit something, I don't want the person behind me becoming a missle and hitting me in the back of my head and breaking my neck!

Trailboss

[systemnt]

here ya go sport,
click >>>--------> do seatbelts save lives ?

Who disputes that?

[temple droptine]

The law for back seat passengers in cars does seem rather selectively intrusive considering you can still ride a motorcycle without any safety gear and school buses loaded with kids still don't have seat belts.

If they are not required, then the ones in the front shouldn't be either, if there are passengers in the back while driving. In the event of a collision, If I am riding behind you in your vehicle, and you go from ....... say 60 to 0 mph. I just became, through inertia, a 225 lbs missle/projectile that will now take your head off as I am flying through you, and then the windshield. This is the very reason why a child has always needed to be buckled up, they are a little smaller but pack a powerfull punch to a windshield from the back seat.

cb

EDIT: Trailboss beat me to it. In his profession, he has seen it too. For a long time.

[Cotton]

.....what?
From your own comments the only reason for the law is to keep the insurance companies in business.
So my freedoms and liberties, granted by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, are trumped by the governments need to keep private business afloat?

You understand the underlying principles on why this country was founded ...right?

Yep, do you?

I find it difficult to believe that some can’t fathom that some things passed in government is to keep big government out.

If it was not profitable for an industry to be in business just who in the private sector would do that business? Someone who wanted to throw money away? So who does that leave to carry insurance on your family?

Which would you prefer for your family?
Private Company Insurance
No Insurance
Government Insurance

[Cotton]

.....what?
From your own comments the only reason for the law is to keep the insurance companies in business.
So my freedoms and liberties, granted by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, are trumped by the governments need to keep private business afloat?

You understand the underlying principles on why this country was founded ...right?

I must have missed that in school. Please explain how your freedoms and liberties, granted by the Constitution and Bill of Rights are taken away by the seatbelt law?

[Legdog]

this too obvious?

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[DorothyNotKeegan]

seatbelt ticket question

Leggy I have the same one but you beat me to it! Nice one!

[temple droptine]

this too obvious?

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I am pretty sure she would get a warning, and help on how to fasten her belt.

cb

[systemnt]

I must have missed that in school. Please explain how your freedoms and liberties, granted by the Constitution and Bill of Rights are taken away by the seatbelt law?

Wow.
just... wow.

Nevermind.. You're right.

You win.
Helmets would prevent head injuries in vehicular accidents. We need a law to enforce that.
That would save insurance companies money too.

[Cotton]

Wow.
just... wow.

Nevermind.. You're right.

You win.
Helmets would prevent head injuries in vehicular accidents. We need a law to enforce that.
That would save insurance companies money too.

I didn't think so.

[M16]

As America moves towards socialism and increasing government control of our lives, the historic balance between the right of the individual and the needs of the society. When we move to healthcare as a right, and to be controlled by the government, then it becomes the logical role of the government to make you wear a seatbelt- to protect yourself.

If you look at motor vehicle laws, they are largely to protect others from what you do- speeding, etc.

I can't disagree that wearing a seatbelt is a great idea, and saves lives. I know of too many accidents where the passenger without the seat belt died in an accident. But where does it stop? Nobody can argue that brushing your teeth 2x per day and flossing 1x will reduce the costs for the 'society' for dental care- but does the government then have the power to penalize you if you don't brush and floss?

More govt control over our lives under the guise of they're looking out for us- we're not smart enough to do that. Or spend out own money, they'll collect it as taxes and redistribute it and spend it for us.

Excellent Post!

[rainbow trout]

Just buckle up! It wont kill ya! It becomes a good habbit.

[tvc184]

Wow.
just... wow.

Nevermind.. You're right.

You win.
Helmets would prevent head injuries in vehicular accidents. We need a law to enforce that.
That would save insurance companies money too.

If it is so clearly unconstitutional to enact seat belt or helmet laws, how come no one has been successful in either state or federal court in removing such laws?

It is simple, such laws do not violate any part of the constitutions of the state or nation.

Twice Texas has had mandatory motorcycle helmet laws. They were removed the way they should be.... through political pressure or in other words, the voting process.

[cosmiccowboy]

She may not have a seatbelt on but she sure has some nice air bags.