Hogs and penetration

[bountyhunter]

Abowyer Brown Bears with glue in adaptors will get the job done. They are the best penetrating head I've ever seen. You can also get them in a screw it verison now.

[TxAg]

Stos or Black Diamond for the broad head. A single bevel would give you a little more penetration as well.

Also I would reccommend you looking into string trackers. I will not hunt hogs or turkeys with out one. I've used them for as long as they have been made with very few problems. They have saved me countless animals by using them. If you want to know how to put them on a long bow just say so and I will post pictures. It's easy to make.

I'm interested in some pics. Maybe a separate thread???

[MeatEater]

I have some Stos i'll trade for those crummy old landsharks!

[Mike Javi Cooper]

I'd suggest a 160 grain ACE STD and either a 35 or 45 grain adapter..

[Indian Creek]

A 125 gr zwickey with a 75 gr steel insert on a skinny axis fmj arrow will penetrate like crazy on hogs. Pass throughs were common when I used this setup but the blood trails were hard to follow(on deer the blood was fine). Ive since changed to wider ACE 175gr heads with 75gr inserts (250gr total). No pass throughs on 6 or so hogs but I seem to be getting through to the offside and blood trails are easy to follow. Might try the Ace 160gr tx ag mentioned with aluminum adapter(43 grs I think???) That may be the perfect compromise between cutting width and penetration. I think skinny arrows like the axis help also. Good luck

[FattLip]

HOGS AND PENETRATION??? I am sure glad you were talking about bow hunting.

Caught me off guard

[cjkozik]

think of it as thinning the population. If you got them, you'll have plenty more chances at another harvest..

[Limbwalker]

Land Sharks are not an optimum design for penetration. That concave swept blade is going to hurt penetration, not help it.

Look at a convex blade like a Zwickey eskimo or Eclipse journeyman head. Or look at a 3:1 ratio three blade head like the Wensel woodsman, which may not penetrate as well, but should give you a better blood trail with more damage done.

Personally, if I was using your setup, I'd shoot the Zwickey eskimo and make sure they are razor sharp.

John

[Trick]

Stos or Black Diamond for the broad head. A single bevel would give you a little more penetration as well.

Also I would reccommend you looking into string trackers. I will not hunt hogs or turkeys with out one. I've used them for as long as they have been made with very few problems. They have saved me countless animals by using them. If you want to know how to put them on a long bow just say so and I will post pictures. It's easy to make.

You've peeked my interest. I would like to see this as well.

Abowyer Brown Bears with glue in adaptors will get the job done. They are the best penetrating head I've ever seen. You can also get them in a screw it verison now.

Those are good looking BH's but a bit pricey.

Caught me off guard

I wasn't going to go there.

A 125 gr zwickey with a 75 gr steel insert on a skinny axis fmj arrow will penetrate like crazy on hogs. Pass throughs were common when I used this setup but the blood trails were hard to follow(on deer the blood was fine). Ive since changed to wider ACE 175gr heads with 75gr inserts (250gr total). No pass throughs on 6 or so hogs but I seem to be getting through to the offside and blood trails are easy to follow. Might try the Ace 160gr tx ag mentioned with aluminum adapter(43 grs I think???) That may be the perfect compromise between cutting width and penetration. I think skinny arrows like the axis help also. Good luck

Zwickeys just might be what I'm looking for. Smaller cut 1 1/8", price is right, and they come in a 125gr glue-on. As long as the tip doesn't fold over and I can keep them sharp I think we may have a winner. Thanks!

I have some Stos i'll trade for those crummy old landsharks!

No thanks. I really like the way these Landsharks perform on deer. I'll stick with them.

Thanks everybody!

Matt

[JTeLarkin08]

Man I was having this same problem. I added 50 gr up front and went with an ace broadhead. I shot a 140 pound boar last weekend and got full penetration and the arrow eventually fell out the other side of him. Good blood trail and he went 150 yards. Those sharks don't penetrate good at all. They leave big holes but that doesn't do much good if you don't get into both lungs. I just got some of the big ace express heads too and that is what I will be deer hunting with the rest of the year. I'll shoot my pigs with the regular ace heads and Stos heads

[Wudstix]

HOGS AND PENETRATION??? I am sure glad you were talking about bow hunting.

Yup.


I have good luck with two blade 160 grain Ribtek, STOS, and Magnus Mag I on tapered Cedar or Ash. 63-64# bow weight. Arrow weight 630-725 grans. Try to hit about 4-5 inches above the belly line and as tight to the front leg as I can get. That pocket has been good to me. All but one have been pass through. Used a Snuffer once and got through as well, and was really happy with the blood trail.

[Trick]

I'm sure more poundage would help alot, but it's going to take a while to get up to the 60's. At least I'm not going to push it.

Matt

[Wudstix]

Shot placement and clean arrow flight are equally important, shoot work you can comfortable draw and hold (for a bit) while sitting down. Fred Asbell had a great article in Bowhunter several years ago about building bow strength, "Strong as a Bull" was the article title might find it in the library if not PM me your address.

[brent.westbrook]

Well, I am always thinking something could be better so I always want to change to a different head. What I have and always come back to is, when I'm going after something big, I have abowyer wapitti heads, deer I have silverflame xl's, and for more economical like for hogs, Im going to shoot ACE super express. I wanted to shoot something really big like the treesharks, but I also want to ready for hogzilla if he comes by. I shoot 60# and a min of 600grains. I also agree with planning your setup to suceed when things go wrong, a field tip on a light arrow will work when everything goes right!

However I by no means am a veteran trad guy or an expert. This is only my thoughts on what I have taken from others research and experiences.

[Wudstix]

Patience in shoot selection is always good, limiting distance to better insure a great hit is also a good idea. After that smooth arrow flight and sharp heads are the answer.