Arrow tuning ???

[Bisch]

I cant believe Im going to say this but BISCH IS RIGHT, man that tasted bad. Arrow flight and tuning is most important when talking penetration

You must have a real sour taste in your mouth right now! That is twice in a nonth you have said "Bisch is right".

See ya later bud.

Bisch

[Mike Javi Cooper]

But it don't matter how straight and good the arrow flies if there ain't enough lead in the britches to shove a great big broadhead through a 1 1/2” thick shield and still get through to the lights.....

[Bisch]

But it don't matter how straight and good the arrow flies if there ain't enough lead in the britches to shove a great big broadhead through a 1 1/2” thick shield and still get through to the lights.....

Shooting a big pig in the shield with an arrow is always a crap shoot.....I don't care what your setup is.

That being said, you do have to have enough punch to get the job done.

Bisch

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Bisch, I'm a big fan of “NOT” shooting big hogs in the shield... but sometimes it happens no matter how hard you try not to... and when it does I prefer a heavy arrow with a very sharp BH flying with as little upset as is humanly possible..

[Bisch]

Bisch, I'm a big fan of “NOT” shooting big hogs in the shield... but sometimes it happens no matter how hard you try not to... and when it does I prefer a heavy arrow with a very sharp BH flying with as little upset as is humanly possible..

I just don't hardly ever shoot big ones. The small ones eat way better.

I do agree with your thoughts on the subject though.

Bisch

[RickBarbee]

52# draw & 520gr arrow & 170+ fps

In my opinion:

You are trying to fix something that ain't broke.

The end result of what you are trying to achieve will be a wash,
as far as delivered energy is concerned, and the only thing, that
is going to be noticeable to you is the arc of your arrow,
because there'll be more of it.

You are going to loose somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 - 10 fps.
You will only gain about 1 ft lb of KE, or less.
You might (MIGHT) gain a little forward momentum, but I don't believe
it will be enough to give you what you are looking for,

AND

In the end all be all of it - if the arrows are not well tuned,
and flying like they should be, you may very well end up loosing
way more than you can afford.

Like I said - it's just my opinion, but I don't give it lightly.

Rick

[JTeLarkin08]

You can see in that picture tho. That wasn't shield. That was all ribs since she was quartering away. The broadhead just barely got to the vitals. I just want a little more punch out of my arrows

[JTeLarkin08]

52# draw & 520gr arrow & 170+ fps

In my opinion:

You are trying to fix something that ain't broke.

The end result of what you are trying to achieve will be a wash,
as far as delivered energy is concerned, and the only thing, that
is going to be noticeable to you is the arc of your arrow,
because there'll be more of it.

You are going to loose somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 - 10 fps.
You will only gain about 1 ft lb of KE, or less.
You might (MIGHT) gain a little forward momentum, but I don't believe
it will be enough to give you what you are looking for,

AND

In the end all be all of it - if the arrows are not well tuned,
and flying like they should be, you may very well end up loosing
way more than you can afford.

Like I said - it's just my opinion, but I don't give it lightly.

Rick

I think I'm either going to try cutting my arrows off a little and adding 50 more grains up front. Or I'm going to go to the 400 fmj's. They are heavier but have the same spine so I know I cam get them to tune. I didn't mean tO come off as I was just goig to add weight no matter if they tune or not. Bc that's not the case. I'm gonna make sure they tune. I just would like an extra 50 grains if anything just for confidence.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

In JT's defense he is doing pretty good with his shooting and his tuning, when he was at the house his arrows were flying pretty darn well and more often than not he is within a 1/2” or so of his intended target at his max range.. But with the BH's of his choosing he just needs a little more weight to shove them through..

[G Posik]

I am shooting 50# at 28" on my long bow. arrows are FMJ's cut to 31" with 75 gr inserts, 210gr heads and they fly great. I put them on the scale and I get 690-695 gr. Right now I think the only way to get these arrows to fly any better is the operator.

On a seperate not where did you find 100 gr inserts for the FMJ's? I could only find 75 gr inserts.

[RickBarbee]

I wasn't trying to imply that your tuning abilities are lacking.
Sorry it came off that way JT.

I was just trying to make two points:

1 - the tuning is more important than
the mass of the arrow if the mass is withing a reasonable
range. Your 10gpp is plenty reasonable.

&

2 - with your current setup I don't think you are going to gain much if anything by bumping the weight. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Rick

[JTeLarkin08]

I am shooting 50# at 28" on my long bow. arrows are FMJ's cut to 31" with 75 gr inserts, 210gr heads and they fly great. I put them on the scale and I get 690-695 gr. Right now I think the only way to get these arrows to fly any better is the operator.

On a seperate not where did you find 100 gr inserts for the FMJ's? I could only find 75 gr inserts.

3riversarchery has them in their brass insert.. Not the easton brand but the 3 rivers brand

[JTeLarkin08]

I am shooting 50# at 28" on my long bow. arrows are FMJ's cut to 31" with 75 gr inserts, 210gr heads and they fly great. I put them on the scale and I get 690-695 gr. Right now I think the only way to get these arrows to fly any better is the operator.

On a seperate not where did you find 100 gr inserts for the FMJ's? I could only find 75 gr inserts.

what FMJs are you shooting the 340s or 400s??

[G Posik]

Sorry forgot to put that little bit of info. 340's

[JTeLarkin08]

Sorry forgot to put that little bit of info. 340's

What is your actual draw?? 28 in?? I am shooting a 51# at 28 in bow. But my draw is 28.5. So I'm prolly shooting 52# or so.