a question that i dont think has been asked...

[BobbyB]

Shot a doe this week in ND both lungs and liver she ran 85 yards no blood. She was hit mid body. Last season I hit one in the heart she had an immediate blood trail and she went about 85 yards.

I have seen video of some no blood trails. Then they used one of those blood lights and the specs were so small you couldnt really spot them with a naked eye.

[meangene1969]

hit them low or do like Bisch suggested wider blades or single bevel they cut a great S cut and any hit bleeds quick

[Bisch]

John, If you are interested in trying one of the wider heads try a Zephyr Sasquatch. They are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. You can also try the Aboyer heads. They are a littel more but still about half of what the GK's are.

I will have GK's and Ol Man will have the Aboyers when we meet up at KJO.

Bisch

[jreyna920]

ya im looking at that aboyer 215gr whitetail..... thats one bad looking broadhead.... thinking i might try a pack

[Julius]

I used to sharpen my heads shaving sharp and always had problem with blood trails. Now I run over them with a file like Fred Bear did and they tear so much up on the way through they can't help but to bleed. The last few deer I shot I had blood within only a few yards and it was very easy to spot.

[rubydog]

Well with all the advice to shoot em here and pass through there with this broadhead and that. You will have instant blood and blah blah blah.. No matter how hard you try, no matter what broadhead you use, how sharp it is or how big of a hunting legend you think you are. Sometimes deer and other animals flinch, duck, turn or otherwise and no matter how good the archer is you just wont have blood. This will be my 19th year of guiding hunters and I can say I have seen all sorts of scenarios. I have bloodtrailed a coyote over 500 yds that I knew I shot in the leg. Blood kept trickeling down his foot and living sign with every step and never found him. I have had deer shot with a good hit and never found a drop of blood or the deer sometimes even with a dog. I have seen animals shot and thinking it might be a bad hit and they go down in sight. I blood trailed a deer 4.6 miles on GPS that we all agreed was shot a little low in the shoulder with a rifle and on camera. Another guide and I spent all night trailing the 22'' wide monster. We finally caught up to him and put him down only to find the bullet took a weird turn when it hit the shoulder and went up through the neck. Anything can happen when hunting. I cant tell you how many times I have heard "I smoked him" only to spend three hours on a blood trail and find out the hunter didn't hit the animal where he thought he did. I have done the same thing aswell on several occasions. Some times there seems to be no ryhme or reason why an animal doesn't bleed no matter if you shoot an axe head at them. When an animals reactions and yours are involved things dont always go as planned. Dont hang your success on the size or shape of your broadhead. Have a backup plan. Know where a good blood dog is, use blood lights etc...

[Buff]

Well with all the advice to shoot em here and pass through there with this broadhead and that. You will have instant blood and blah blah blah.. No matter how hard you try, no matter what broadhead you use, how sharp it is or how big of a hunting legend you think you are. Sometimes deer and other animals flinch, duck, turn or otherwise and no matter how good the archer is you just wont have blood. This will be my 19th year of guiding hunters and I can say I have seen all sorts of scenarios. I have bloodtrailed a coyote over 500 yds that I knew I shot in the leg. Blood kept trickeling down his foot and living sign with every step and never found him. I have had deer shot with a good hit and never found a drop of blood or the deer sometimes even with a dog. I have seen animals shot and thinking it might be a bad hit and they go down in sight. I blood trailed a deer 4.6 miles on GPS that we all agreed was shot a little low in the shoulder with a rifle and on camera. Another guide and I spent all night trailing the 22'' wide monster. We finally caught up to him and put him down only to find the bullet took a weird turn when it hit the shoulder and went up through the neck. Anything can happen when hunting. I cant tell you how many times I have heard "I smoked him" only to spend three hours on a blood trail and find out the hunter didn't hit the animal where he thought he did. I have done the same thing aswell on several occasions. Some times there seems to be no ryhme or reason why an animal doesn't bleed no matter if you shoot an axe head at them. When an animals reactions and yours are involved things dont always go as planned. Dont hang your success on the size or shape of your broadhead. Have a backup plan. Know where a good blood dog is, use blood lights etc...

ok

[Chunky]

Well with all the advice to shoot em here and pass through there with this broadhead and that. You will have instant blood and blah blah blah.. No matter how hard you try, no matter what broadhead you use, how sharp it is or how big of a hunting legend you think you are. Sometimes deer and other animals flinch, duck, turn or otherwise and no matter how good the archer is you just wont have blood. This will be my 19th year of guiding hunters and I can say I have seen all sorts of scenarios. I have bloodtrailed a coyote over 500 yds that I knew I shot in the leg. Blood kept trickeling down his foot and living sign with every step and never found him. I have had deer shot with a good hit and never found a drop of blood or the deer sometimes even with a dog. I have seen animals shot and thinking it might be a bad hit and they go down in sight. I blood trailed a deer 4.6 miles on GPS that we all agreed was shot a little low in the shoulder with a rifle and on camera. Another guide and I spent all night trailing the 22'' wide monster. We finally caught up to him and put him down only to find the bullet took a weird turn when it hit the shoulder and went up through the neck. Anything can happen when hunting. I cant tell you how many times I have heard "I smoked him" only to spend three hours on a blood trail and find out the hunter didn't hit the animal where he thought he did. I have done the same thing aswell on several occasions. Some times there seems to be no ryhme or reason why an animal doesn't bleed no matter if you shoot an axe head at them. When an animals reactions and yours are involved things dont always go as planned. Dont hang your success on the size or shape of your broadhead. Have a backup plan. Know where a good blood dog is, use blood lights etc...

While you make several excellent points....we all make bad hits sometimes, the shot happens so fast the hunter is often wrong about what did happen, and have a back up plan and do everything you can to recover the animal....that was not how I read the orgional question. I thought he was asking (assume a good hit) how long until you find first blood.

I don't think anyone expects to find blood quickly if you have a bad hit.

[rubydog]

No offense meant to anyone on my post and if so, so be it. I do find however that rarely is there ever mentionabout the one that got away. I have been at the bowhunting game way to long to spread the television show belief that every animal shot is recovered. Ask yourselves how many times have you seen on tv or video a hunter make a bad or at best questionable shot? Yet, you never hear of a bad or non recovery and this applies to gun hunters as well.
I think that for all the lesser experienced hunters out there the full scope of expectations, dissapointments and proper preperations should be laid out.
If people were to believe all they see on tv and video we would have a camera man in every tree stand and groung blind as they seem to be good trackers since they always find the animal first.

Buff, good looking do there...

[jreyna920]

Rubydog, i wasnt saying that i dont make bad hits or anything of the nature... and i know a higher shot even though it may be a lung shot wont bleed the same. I was only referring to shots where i have recovered the animal and it was indeed a good shot.... Like i said I orginally was shooting snuffers and liked them other then i wasnt getting pass throughs although i was getting good penetration (only 43# limbs) but i have recently bumped up to 56# and shooting a two blade with bleeders, and have shot two critters since the change... both were good shots in my book. the pig was in the shoulder seam behind the front leg but mid chest(higher then i would have liked) and i credited that for the lack of blood early on. then the ram this pass weekend was hit in the seam again but only 4inches from the bottom of his chest and i didnt get it still until 12 yards but on the other hand it was pouring rain so that might have had a little to do with hiding things.

but i do agree with you i have made near identical shots on two animals and one make it 12 yards and another 100.... i was just asking what others where getting on good shots, and what broadhead they used


John

[bob sarrels]

With the Saquatch I am shooting, either directly under the animal where it was standing at time of shot or within 6 to 8 feet. Jeeeeese. that thing makes em bleed and I mean QUIIIIIICK.