Howard Hill Long Bows

[Limbwalker]

If you were a betting man, you would be right. I know for certain that my style is dying at a rapid pace. My local club has all moved on to the Black Widows and T-Hawks. They always try to talk me into getting one but I guess somebody has to be the rotten egg in the dozen.

But the elbow wrap thing? I'm seriously still not getting it. What are some of the problems that people have with Hill bows? I usually only hear of hand shock. What are some of the other issues?

Tennis elbow. Or Tendonitis of the elbow. It's why I won't shoot one again, even though I love how they look and I love the history behind them.

I once owned a bamboo/yew Wesley Special. It was the sweetest shooting D-shaped longbow I've ever shot. I now own a bamboo/yew 3-Rivers Tomahawk R/D longbow. There is NO comparison as to which is smoother and has less shock. It's not even close.

[Limbwalker]

Like Tom D said, Hill style bows are no where near center shot so there is a learning curve from a recurve to longbow. I'm scared to death of Jerry Hill bows. I think his company went belly up because many of his bows were coming apart. I've got my eye on a Miller right now. Its made the way longbows were made in the 40's with the nodes still showing on the bamboo and no glass. But I prefer simple old fashioned bows.

I had not one, but TWO Jerry Hill Wildcats come apart on me in the mid-90's. And they shocked so hard they rattled my fillings out. Worst bows I've ever shot, bar none.

Having said that, I killed many a hog with those JH bows.

[M.E.B.]

I had not one, but TWO Jerry Hill Wildcats come apart on me in the mid-90's. And they shocked so hard they rattled my fillings out. Worst bows I've ever shot, bar none.

Having said that, I killed many a hog with those JH bows.

Jerry Hill longbow worse shooting POS I have ever shot. Sorry.

I like the look, romace of Howard Hill bows. I hate the sharp knife bladed grip that Howard prefered.

[Retsbew]

Well, haters are gonna' hate but I see no point in insulting a bow design just because it doesn't shoot well for you or isn't 'silk pillow comfy'...ya' bunch of Mama's boy candy-arsed pansies.

See what I did there with the insult stuff....

[Limbwalker]

LOL...

I love the phrase "shoot well for YOU."

That one kills me. As if one person will feel the hand shock but the next won't, or as if only certain people can appreciate a bow without it.

Ah, it takes me back to the days on the L'wall.

[Retsbew]

Wah wah, dat big ole nasty Howard Hill bow hurt my powr wittle elbow, wah wah

[Limbwalker]

Ret, you do realize it's 2014, and not 1955, right?

[Retsbew]

Guess I didn't know that bow designs need to be less than a year old to be good shooters, LW. You know it's funny, my old Hills are just as fun to shoot as my brandy new 21st Century Edge.

Someone really should tell Craig Ekin that he's too old to make good bows anymore....before he completely embarrasses himself.

BTW, I remember the old Leatherwall...and things haven't changed much, lol.

[Limbwalker]

"less than a year old..."

LOL!

Dude. R/D longbows have been around since the 50's, maybe longer.

Ekin is married to a style of bow. Plain and simple.

And I guess my question to you would be, why do you own a 21st Century Edge if your Hills are so great?

[M.E.B.]

I have shot a Hill or two that I liked. But the grip was customized, hate that knife edge grip, and I think the owner was shooting way heavy arrows.

The two Jerry Hills were worse than any Howard Hills I had ever shot.

21 th Century Edge is a nice shooting bow. I have one and love it. Too bad you don't see more 21 th Centurys around these days they are good bows.

Loved the Leather Wall and Tradgang. But they just don't love us Texan feeder lovin, corn spreading, 4 wheeler ridin, game camera usin, high fence, game ranchin, 5 deer per season, huntin in "their state for elk" rednecks. You know we should all be ashamed.........

[Limbwalker]

MEB, that's funny right there.

Agreed on the 21st century bows. They really changed the trad bow landscape forever. I remember when they came out. I shot one in 1989 or 1990 at the TX Trad. Championships in Jacksonville. Met Jim and Buddy, and some guy there who was promoting a new broadhead called "Magnus."

Those were good times.

John

[moreammo]

I have shot a lot of Hill bows and if you grip them right (read: different than modern bows) they are sweet shooters. They do like a heavy arrow, which works for me because so do I. I light weight arrow leave a lot of energy in the bow and causes feedback.

I exclusively shoot a straight limbed longbow with a d shape but the grip is slightly thicker than a hill... fits my hand better. I love it and am **** accurate with it when i do my part...

no tennis elbow from any of them either... at least not for me. like has been said... love them or hate them... that's how they go.

if you want a hill nothing else will do... same as if you wanted something else... you will never know until try it for yourself, no matter what the rest of us say.

I can absolutely second one... or several... of Bobs bows as being a great starter bow as well. He is great to deal with too!

Jon

[M.E.B.]

From what I have read Howard Hill gripped his bow with his palm more to the side which seems to put a lot of stress on your wrist.

I can see where this style of grip "could" reduce hand shock, maybe.

[Thumper]

Hand shock is pretty bad with them so most Howard Hill shooters shoot real heavy arrows. For a new shooter training bow I'd pick up something like a Bear Montana around 35lbs.

[Centex]

They're totally useless and horrible...you can't kill anything with them...
Haters gonna hate.