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    #16
    Most of the info given above is correct. I've seen many claims on the "benefits" of barrel fluting like making a barrel stiffer, or helping it cool faster. I wish that were true, as barrel fluting makes up a significant portion of our services. Fact is, we just haven't observed those claims as being measurable beyond anything more than "theory". The only thing it does for sure is reduce weight and change the appearance of the barrel. The benefits are often way over-stated, but so are the "risks".

    There is no more risk involved with a correctly executed fluting job than there is with re-contouring a barrel blank. Of course there will always be a higher risk with buttoned barrels vs. cut rifled due to the way they are made. Even then, the risks are very minimal if using a properly stress relieved buttoned blank(not all are). We've fluted well over 1,000 barrels, and to my knowledge only had 3 not behave properly after fluting. All were buttoned. That's a far smaller failure rate than Carbon Fiber barrels from ANY manufacturer. Nobody seems that concerned about going carbon fiber, yet the CF blanks are subjected to massive amounts of material removal as compared to a fluting job held to a reasonable depth. Material removal does not really induce stress, as much as it "uncovers" it so to speak.

    I have seen all of the evidence and data that opponents to the process have put out there, and agree most of it makes sense. However, it just doesn't seem to translate to the target with any consistency. After seeing 100's of fluted barrels hold groups that would be competitive in most disciplines outside of SR benchrest, I just don't think it's worth worrying about. It wouldn't be a feature of serious consideration on a match rifle anyway.

    Like Jake pointed out above, sometimes it will tighten groups and sometimes it will open them up......as it is changing harmonics. Most of the time it will do nothing either way. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes its not. Good rule is if it's shooting good now, don't mess with it It can be a great tool for dropping some weight, or better yet improving the balance on a hunting rig. Just go in knowing you "might" need to adjust your ammo. Chances are you won't.

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      #17
      I had one fluted for balance reasons on a little CS 527 Grendel before they were chambering the rifle in that caliber. Like the results and an Obermeyer barrel showed no negative effects from the fluting. I could have cut some barrel off and got the same results but wanted to keep it at the length I had.

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        #18
        Want to have a custom barrel fluted

        Originally posted by Stick1 View Post
        Most of the info given above is correct. I've seen many claims on the "benefits" of barrel fluting like making a barrel stiffer, or helping it cool faster. I wish that were true, as barrel fluting makes up a significant portion of our services. Fact is, we just haven't observed those claims as being measurable beyond anything more than "theory". The only thing it does for sure is reduce weight and change the appearance of the barrel. The benefits are often way over-stated, but so are the "risks".

        There is no more risk involved with a correctly executed fluting job than there is with re-contouring a barrel blank. Of course there will always be a higher risk with buttoned barrels vs. cut rifled due to the way they are made. Even then, the risks are very minimal if using a properly stress relieved buttoned blank(not all are). We've fluted well over 1,000 barrels, and to my knowledge only had 3 not behave properly after fluting. All were buttoned. That's a far smaller failure rate than Carbon Fiber barrels from ANY manufacturer. Nobody seems that concerned about going carbon fiber, yet the CF blanks are subjected to massive amounts of material removal as compared to a fluting job held to a reasonable depth. Material removal does not really induce stress, as much as it "uncovers" it so to speak.

        I have seen all of the evidence and data that opponents to the process have put out there, and agree most of it makes sense. However, it just doesn't seem to translate to the target with any consistency. After seeing 100's of fluted barrels hold groups that would be competitive in most disciplines outside of SR benchrest, I just don't think it's worth worrying about. It wouldn't be a feature of serious consideration on a match rifle anyway.

        Like Jake pointed out above, sometimes it will tighten groups and sometimes it will open them up......as it is changing harmonics. Most of the time it will do nothing either way. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes its not. Good rule is if it's shooting good now, don't mess with it[emoji4] It can be a great tool for dropping some weight, or better yet improving the balance on a hunting rig. Just go in knowing you "might" need to adjust your ammo. Chances are you won't.


        Robert how much weight reduction can reasonably be expected by fluting say a Krieger #5 sporter barrel at 26”?

        I’m thinking a few ounces at best.


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          #19
          Originally posted by Mike D View Post
          Robert how much weight reduction can reasonably be expected by fluting say a Krieger #5 sporter barrel at 26”?

          I’m thinking a few ounces at best.


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          Mike, there are a few online barrel weight calculators but on that contour about 6-7 oz. I think. Obviously the # of flutes changes things but I'd think no more than that. If I'm worried about ounces I'll put my *** on a treadmill...

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            #20
            KCK's estimation is about right. It really depends on the style of fluting, number of flutes and cutter depth. Like I said earlier, its a great tool for shifting the balance on a rig, or as PART of the overall weight reduction plan.

            The biggest bang for the buck in weight reduction is a carbon fiber stock without a doubt. It's quick, easy and usually only adds about $100 over any other premium stock while providing the biggest reduction in weight. Which brings up a good example of how fluting might have a beneficial place in a build plan. When you place anything above a #4ish contour in a CF stock based on a normal hunting pattern it tends to get nose heavy really quick. If you want a balanced rig you can either drop down in contour and give up some rigidity, or keep what you have and lightly flute it - or even step up a contour and get a little more aggressive with the fluting. It's amazing how much the balance point can shift back to center by removing a mere 1/4 lb from the front of the rifle. I'd rather carry and shoot a well balanced 10 lb rifle than a nose heavy 8 lb rig any day. The 8 will feel heavier at the end of the day if you're carrying it any way but slung over your shoulder.

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              #21
              You won't find any better than Pete Pieper!!

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