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    What do you do when you want to work up a load and no data exists for your cartridge/bullet combination?

    #2
    What cartridge/bullet data are you looking for? Someone might be able to help.

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      #3
      I'm a shotgunner and I deal with this constantly. There's rules you can use on that side of the coin. As far as metallic, it gets a little sketchy when going off of no load data.


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        #4
        Originally posted by tward1604 View Post
        What do you do when you want to work up a load and no data exists for your cartridge/bullet combination?
        What are we talking about here cartridge wise?

        Starting point might be another cartridge of similar case capacity and bullet weight.

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          #5
          Originally posted by tward1604 View Post
          What do you do when you want to work up a load and no data exists for your cartridge/bullet combination?
          Pick a different combination. There's likely a good reason there's no load data for the combination. That said, what combination are you looking at? Perhaps one of us can help. I have almost every current load manual published.

          LWD

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            #6
            Post up what cartridge and projectile. Most likely need to know your barrel twist as well.

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              #7
              In my experience, when there's no load data for a desired bullet/powder combination the problem usually is that the desired powder is either too slow or too fast for the cartridge and/or bullet weight.

              LWD

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                #8
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                Quickload is your friend. You may have to build a custom case profile but it will give you the data if case dimensions are known.

                This is assuming you are talking about a wildcat cartridge.

                If not PM me and I'll see what I can do with Quickload.


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                  #9
                  This was common in the early days of working up the Grendel.

                  Powder burn charts and use the limited data.....then start low and use a chronograph to find pressure spikes before the brass shows anything.

                  Then stop when you see a spike.

                  What case, powder and bullet. The GS may have answers to the questions you seek.

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                    #10
                    its actually for the 30-30. The only data for the company is for a bullet 15 grains lighter. There isn't a similar bullet that is near the weight and length for it. The bullet weighs 165 grains but is longer than every other 30-30 bullet out there. Actualy the 150 grain Nosler E-tip is the only bullet longer.

                    I'm looking to load the 165 grain Peregrine bushmaster over varget in the 30-30. I have a marlin 336. All the specs work out just fine there just isn't any data for it. like i said they have it for their 150 grain just not the 165.

                    Before anyone says anything about cup and core bullets being sufficient for the 30-30 i know they are but what good would it be to be a reloader if i'd be content with whats on the shelfs.

                    Mike D PM sent

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                      #11
                      170gr bullets with variety start at 22.9gr then go up to 33gr. Data per Hodgdon.

                      I would run with that data if I was in your shoes.

                      Run a test ladder then run for accuracy.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Outbreaker View Post
                        170gr bullets with variety start at 22.9gr then go up to 33gr. Data per Hodgdon.

                        I would run with that data if I was in your shoes.

                        Run a test ladder then run for accuracy.
                        I was kinda thinking 10% of a 170 gr load. I'll try 22.9. How much will a ladder test really help on a 30-30 lever gun? My only gripe with the ladder test is you go through a lot of bullets and they aren't cheap. Especially having to order them from south africa

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                          #13
                          I would shoot 1 bullet 1 gr apart from 23-33.

                          Modern lever or old lever? If older do 23-30.

                          Safety over cost.......or it could cost you a lot more.

                          My dads 7mm mag stuck cases at minimum powder charges with some bullets.

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