Long range shooting beginner.

[mzurovec]

I was in the same boat as you about a year ago, and started out with a .308. I ended up selling it in order to get a 6.5 (.260 Remington). If doing it again, I would buy a Creedmoor, as it lives up to the hype and has outstanding factory ammo. I think you'll be glad you did it, and the only reason I went with the .260 was for an excuse to get into reloading.

The .308 is a good round, but the 6.5mm's are really rocking.

Marshall

[trophy8]

I shoot a Savage Model 12 ftr in .308. Their accu-trigger is a good trigger. It, or a Remington, are a good action for a future build.

Don't worry about the .308 hate you will get.





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Sweet Jesus get some lower rings man haha. Do you input 6" for your sight height in your ballistics calculator?

[trophy8]

To get good at long range you need to be good at 100. Can you shoot GOOD groups? Do you have good form? Consistency? If not then start there.

And 308 sucks. Period. Slow. Inefficient. PIA in the wind. Get a 6 or a 6.5 or a 7 something. Lots of guys on here can turn an elevation dial and walk a Bullet onto steel at 1000 plus. I bet 1/4 or less can truly read the wind and make first round hits at given distances. The wind will be your biggest obstacle. So don't start out with a round that gets its *** kicked by wind. There's a LOT of good info on the gun section here about long range shooting. Everything from ballistics to optics and everything in between. Lots of guys willing to help. There's beginners to PRS shooters. If you're on Facebook look up WTPLR page and I'll add you. Some very good shooters who are down to earth and won't give you crap for not shooting a high dollar rig (unless it's an ugly ole savage ).

[howabouttheiris]

Sweet Jesus get some lower rings ..... 308 sucks. Period.... won't give you crap for not shooting a high dollar rig .... an ugly ole savage

Good luck OP. Hope you find the support you are looking for in your future long range shooting. I'm out.


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[trophy8]

Good luck OP. Hope you find the support you are looking for in your future long range shooting. I'm out.


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It's a joke man....relax.

[HoustonR6ryda]

sweet Jesus.... hilarious.....6.5 Creedmore

[trophy8]

sweet Jesus.... hilarious.....6.5 Creedmore

Ragin!!

If folks are gonna get offended then come give them a reason!!

[JW]

It's a joke man....relax.

Triggered! But to be honest it's not everyday you see a scope with a lift kit.


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[JW]

Long range shooting beginner.

Ragin!!



If folks are gonna get offended then come give them a reason!!

I'm gonna leave the 6.5 Needmoor fellas alone today. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


Op I agree with a lot of the other guys. 308 will work but there are better options out there for wind doing etc.

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[Livin'2hunt]

I have a 308 set up for the same thing. If you can get into a 6.5 round like a 6.5 Creedmoor or a 260 Rem or 6.5x47 Lapua, you'll buck the wind better and not have to eat up so much of the reticle. Strongly consider the Ruger Precision Rifle. About $1300 and has every dang thing you'll need for killing stuff out to 1200 yards.

[gumbl3]

Triggered! But to be honest it's not everyday you see a scope with a lift kit.


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I just fell out of my chair

[JW]

I just fell out of my chair

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[Horitexan]

The advice you've been given about going with a 6.5 round is solid but you CAN do it with a .308, if that's where your heart is at. I use a 6.5 Creedmoor and a .260. On the Creedmoor, ammo choices are really growing fast and there's a company called PRIME that makes some great match ammo at an affordable price- they also make .260, .308 and others. It's well known over on SH but it's not well known to the general public. http://www.primeammo.com/ammunition.html Reloading is always going to be better but, if you're not 'there' yet, Prime is a pretty good place to start for LR shooting.

Remington, Savage, Tikka - they'll all work. The Remington will give you more options for upgrades. A great trigger will go a long way towards accuracy and, if you go Remington, you'll want to do immediately. A Jewell HVR or a Timney Calvin Elite will be your best choices. A Savage or Tikka will come with a trigger suitable for LR shooting out of the box; although you'll probably want to upgrade those triggers eventually. A Tikka or a Savage ought to be good enough to throw good glass on and start shooting.

Learn to do a bedding job or have a gunsmith bedding your action. It's not expensive but, aside from the trigger, will give you enormous benefits in terms of accuracy. For most rifles, anyway.

Glass. If you're going to shoot LR, your glass is as important as your rifle. There are all sorts of threads on here about glass. Pick a good moa/moa or mil/mil scope with really clear glass and at least 18x magnification. If you can't see it, you can't hit it. Make SURE you get something that has a reputation for repeatable tracking! If it doesn't track accurately, you're going to struggle when you dial. You don't have to go with Nightforce (although I love mine!) or some other very expensive manufacturer but you're going to need to drop some coin. A budget scope is probably not going to cut it at that distance.

Blake turned me on to a poor man's ballistic calculator system that works really well. I use a Sig Kilo 2000 rangefinder (bought in classifieds for $300) with a Weatherflow weather meter ($85) and the BallisticsARC ($15) app on my phone. For $100, it's essentially a Kestrel. Also, the StrelokPro app is pretty handy.

Hope this helps a little. There are loads of LR guys on here that'll help you out with specific questions. I'd go spend some time over on LongRangeHunting and Snipers Hide. LOT'S of great topic-specific info over there.



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[JW]

The advice you've been given about going with a 6.5 round is solid but you CAN do it with a .308, if that's where your heart is at. I use a 6.5 Creedmoor and a .260. On the Creedmoor, ammo choices are really growing fast and there's a company called PRIME that makes some great match ammo at an affordable price- they also make .260, .308 and others. It's well known over on SH but it's not well known to the general public. http://www.primeammo.com/ammunition.html Reloading is always going to be better but, if you're not 'there' yet, Prime is a pretty good place to start for LR shooting.

Remington, Savage, Tikka - they'll all work. The Remington will give you more options for upgrades. A great trigger will go a long way towards accuracy and, if you go Remington, you'll want to do immediately. A Jewell HVR or a Timney Calvin Elite will be your best choices. A Savage or Tikka will come with a trigger suitable for LR shooting out of the box; although you'll probably want to upgrade those triggers eventually. A Tikka or a Savage ought to be good enough to throw good glass on and start shooting.

Learn to do a bedding job or have a gunsmith bedding your action. It's not expensive but, aside from the trigger, will give you enormous benefits in terms of accuracy. For most rifles, anyway.

Glass. If you're going to shoot LR, your glass is as important as your rifle. There are all sorts of threads on here about glass. Pick a good moa/moa or mil/mil scope with really clear glass and at least 18x magnification. If you can't see it, you can't hit it. Make SURE you get something that has a reputation for repeatable tracking! If it doesn't track accurately, you're going to struggle when you dial. You don't have to go with Nightforce (although I love mine!) or some other very expensive manufacturer but you're going to need to drop some coin. A budget scope is probably not going to cut it at that distance.

Blake turned me on to a poor man's ballistic calculator system that works really well. I use a Sig Kilo 2000 rangefinder (bought in classifieds for $300) with a Weatherflow weather meter ($85) and the BallisticsARC ($15) app on my phone. For $100, it's essentially a Kestrel. Also, the StrelokPro app is pretty handy.

Hope this helps a little. There are loads of LR guys on here that'll help you out with specific questions. I'd go spend some time over on LongRangeHunting and Snipers Hide. LOT'S of great topic-specific info over there.



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I didn't say anything bad about a Needmoor this time. I'm just still trying to figure out who made those rings on that savage. Skyjacker or Fab Tech. [emoji848]


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[DuramaxDude]

I am trying to get into long range shooting and I am not the wealthiest human being. I wanted some insight on a good gun to get started with. My caliber will be .308. Any suggestions?

The .308 will get it done so will the 6.5 creedmoor there is give a take with each. I have a 6.5 CM and love it. Just my own opinion I wouldn't try taking big game past 800yds with either but that's just me. I have been looking and researching 308s as well and from what I have seen and heard and read and gathered from talking to a couple gunsmiths and long range shooters the savage model 10T that is sold at cabelas the cabelas exclusive is were it is at for a budget. 5R rifling accustock accutrigger tactical bolt handle and comes with a rail on it all for $600 and the one with the threaded barrel is $650. Take that and say a SWFA SS 10, 12, 16, 20 x42mm scope for $300 or a Nikon prostaff 5 xr turret scope or leupold CDS in the $300-$500 range up to 14x to 18x with both you can order custom yardage engraved turrets for your particular load in the price of the scope. There is also a company primary arms with front focal plane scope in the $300 range with different reticles that are neat. Get that rifle/scope set up in any combination you can have rifle rings and scope for a 1000yd gun for probably $1100. In that accustock with the aluminum bedding block you could glass bed that recoil lug in the stock and be definitely good to go!!!! Not saying the model 10T is the best thing in the world but for the price and what you get it is hard to beat if you can.

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https://swfa.com/optics/browse/riflescopes/swfa_ss.html?dir=asc&order=price

http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/product/null/prostaff-5-3.5-14x50-custom-xr-turret.html

https://www.leupold.com/resources/custom-dial-system/

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