Handgun suggestions Single stack 9mm

[TacticalCowboy]

Hard to beat a revolver for any sort of defense, man or woman.

On the other hand, do y'all think women are too stupid to run a gun with a manual safety? Or is that something only men can comprehend?

[tvc184]

Hard to beat a revolver for any sort of defense, man or woman.

On the other hand, do y'all think women are too stupid to run a gun with a manual safety? Or is that something only men can comprehend?

It is not a matter of being stupid. It is a matter of range time.

I don't care about a person's sex or age. If you do not have enough repetitions to begin with and then practice often enough for the muscle memory and the action of the safety to be second nature, you will not perform when the time comes. I have seen it with handguns and I have seen it with shotguns and rifles.

I have been a firearms instructor at the police academy and at my agency for 24 years. I can't count the number of times that I seen an officer who had to fire the shotgun at the police academy and qualify once a year, almost fall on their face when they anticipate the recoil but forget to take the safety off. That is not under the stress of impending sudden death. Being a male and a police officer didn't help. When we get the duck hunting officers on the same firing line, I never see then make the same mistake. Why? They shoot hundreds of shells a year and have done so for many years.

If any person wants to take any firearm and become completely familiar with it and practice at least often enough that it becomes second nature, they can carry anything with equal skill. If the person is not familiar with guns (and in particular handling handguns) and gets a new one and hits the range once or twice and then shoves it in a holster and two years later has to pull it in a life threatening situation, I don't think it is a stretch to say that the person will not automatically sweep the safety. In fact under that kind of stress, the person might never figure out the problem in the panic.

Take a gun like a Glock or a revolver and all it takes is pulling the trigger, even for a person that has never handled a gun can and will make it work. I believe that is why some people (including you) often recommend revolvers and in truth if a person is never going to practice, that is not a bad option. Why? All you have to do is push your hands out toward the target and squeeze the trigger. Sex has nothing to do with that.

In my opinion.

[TacticalCowboy]

It is not a matter of being stupid. It is a matter of range time.

I don't care about a person's sex or age. If you do not have enough repetitions to begin with and then practice often enough for the muscle memory and the action of the safety to be second nature, you will not perform when the time comes. I have seen it with handguns and I have seen it with shotguns and rifles.

I have been a firearms instructor at the police academy and at my agency for 24 years. I can't count the number of times that I seen an officer who had to fire the shotgun at the police academy and qualify once a year, almost fall on their face when they anticipate the recoil but forget to take the safety off. That is not under the stress of impending sudden death. Being a male and a police officer didn't help. When we get the duck hunting officers on the same firing line, I never see then make the same mistake. Why? They shoot hundreds of shells a year and have done so for many years.

If any person wants to take any firearm and become completely familiar with it and practice at least often enough that it becomes second nature, they can carry anything with equal skill. If the person is not familiar with guns (and in particular handling handguns) and gets a new one and hits the range once or twice and then shoves it in a holster and two years later has to pull it in a life threatening situation, I don't think it is a stretch to say that the person will not automatically sweep the safety. In fact under that kind of stress, the person might never figure out the problem in the panic.

Take a gun like a Glock or a revolver and all it takes is pulling the trigger, even for a person that has never handled a gun can and will make it work. I believe that is why some people (including you) often recommend revolvers and in truth if a person is never going to practice, that is not a bad option. Why? All you have to do is push your hands out toward the target and squeeze the trigger. Sex has nothing to do with that.

In my opinion.

I agree, somewhat. The fact of the matter is, people will recommend a gun with no safety because it is an excuse to not go practice with that gun, and then tell others that they shouldn't carry one with a safety as it is too complicated.

Basically, don't use the lack of a safety as an excuse not to practice. If you're going to carry it, actually know how to use it.

[tvc184]

I agree, somewhat. The fact of the matter is, people will recommend a gun with no safety because it is an excuse to not go practice with that gun, and then tell others that they shouldn't carry one with a safety as it is too complicated.

Basically, don't use the lack of a safety as an excuse not to practice. If you're going to carry it, actually know how to use it.

But I would be willing to bet that about 95% of handgun owners rarely, if ever, practice. It doesn't matter if they should, they don't.

[H-D]

But I would be willing to bet that about 95% of handgun owners rarely, if ever, practice. It doesn't matter if they should, they don't.

Word.
You have to have a "love" for the shooting world and 5% sounds about right for those of us that do.

[TacticalCowboy]

So if you don't know how to use it, what's the point of carrying a pistol?

[tvc184]

So if you don't know how to use it, what's the point of carrying a pistol?

You need to ask the millions of people that do it.

Denying that it happens however is denying reality. There are millions of people in this country that own firearms that have never fired them or have done so maybe once.

Go to almost any CHL class and watch the show. I can with fair amount of certainty say that there will be people in the class in that category. When they renew it online a few years later, will never have fired their weapon since the class.

[RJH1]

You need to ask the millions of people that do it.

Denying that it happens however is denying reality. There are millions of people in this country that own firearms that have never fired them or have done so maybe once.

Go to almost any CHL class and watch the show. I can with fair amount of certainty say that there will be people in the class in that category. When they renew it online a few years later, will never have fired their weapon since the class.

This is unfortunately true, when I took my class there were people renting guns to take the class with.....

[TacticalCowboy]

You need to ask the millions of people that do it.

Denying that it happens however is denying reality. There are millions of people in this country that own firearms that have never fired them or have done so maybe once.

Go to almost any CHL class and watch the show. I can with fair amount of certainty say that there will be people in the class in that category. When they renew it online a few years later, will never have fired their weapon since the class.

I'm am aware of those types, unfortunately. My only point is that an external safety on ANYTHING only takes about an hour of dry fire practice to get used to and memorized.