Shot group question

[sir shovelhands]

You shooting a smooth-bore???

[WyoBull]

Actually the led sled causesv this from inconsistent sock flex

I have never had this happen and I use a leadsled all the time when I need to sight in a rifle or when testing new loads etc. I am not saying it can't happen but a string like this that is so large, I would suspect the rifle, especially since the OP said he changed out the scope.

[cmh2007]

Rifles with lots of tupperware tend to act like this when you back them up to a brick wall. they flex with non uniform results typically causing vertical stringing. A loose scope will tend to shoot all over, not in perfect windage.

[Cull hunter]

Have u tried breaking the stock bolts loose , lock tighten them and re torque to factory specs?

[WyoBull]

Rifles with lots of tupperware tend to act like this when you back them up to a brick wall. they flex with non uniform results typically causing vertical stringing. A loose scope will tend to shoot all over, not in perfect windage.

I see what you are saying but my led sled is nothing like backing it against a brick wall. In fact, I would say it has just as much flex as my should using a bipod and sand bags but it takes a lot of the human error out of the equation.
I just don't think the sled is the problem but I would definitely like to hear what it is when he figures it out.

[catslayer]

I don't like the washer idea... putting extra strain on the barrel/stock... bad juju... I'd try it shooting into your shoulder...

When you quit and come back does it come back to the first hit??

It really almost looks like bottom is cold clean bore... and then as the barrel heats and dirtys ups it is moving POI... Part of the reason I am not a proponent of over cleaning...

[ItsLeo]

That rifle is a single shot break open action. When it's locked shut if you have any wiggle between barrel and receiver it will shoot all over the place.

I would suspect it needs a slightly larger hinge pin to tighten up the action.

Ask a gun smith that has worked on some single shots. What he thinks.

[Pullersboy]

1st thing I would check is my fundamentas. Looks like a breathing issue to me. Are you shooting at the top or bottom of a breath? Pros and cons to each. I like to shoot at the bottom of a breath (at full exhale). This leaves my body in the same position each time I squeeze the trigger. Consistency is the key here. If shooting at the top of a breath (full lungs on inhale) you can actually be slightly different each time depending upon how large a breath you take between shots. Lay down behind your gun, get your natural point of aim and practice breathing. Between each shot, close your eyes, take a deep breath, exhale, & open your eyes. Are you still aimed at the same point you were before closing your eyes and taking that breath? If not, you natural point of aim needs to be adjusted. This is done by moving the body around, not by moving the gun with your arms/hands. Once you get the natural point of aim, and breathing consistency, try shooting a three round group and see what the results are. If you're sure your fundamentals are solid, then start looking into possible issues with your gun or ammo.

Just my. 02. Good luck getting it worked out.

[esp]

I don't like the washer idea... putting extra strain on the barrel/stock... bad juju... I'd try it shooting into your shoulder...



When you quit and come back does it come back to the first hit??



It really almost looks like bottom is cold clean bore... and then as the barrel heats and dirtys ups it is moving POI... Part of the reason I am not a proponent of over cleaning...

The first shot was closest to the bullseye, the second just above it. I adjusted the scope one inch down. Next shot was high and the last one is the lowest one.

[elkaholic9292]

Life is too short for rifles like that. Imo

[Mike Flores]

New to the forum, but I agree with pullersboy, looks like breathing issue.

[viper3853]

base or rings.
had that happen with my 270. I changed to Leupold rings and fixed the prob.

[etxccampbell]

ammo?
velocity changes....

[john_brown2262]

shoot a different gun the same way and that'll tell you right off if its the gun or you. and I would try it on bags too. then if it still does it its most likely the gun

[gumbl3]

Shoot three or even 5 without adjusting. Take your time and make good shots. If you don't make a good shot throw that one out and do it again. Find the center and adjust your POI from there. You can't shoot, adjust, shoot, adjust and be concerned about groups or stringing.