Need insight.

[Slingblade]

I just got a S&W M&P ar15 22 for my son. I want to put eather a small red dot scope or good open sights on it. It has neather right now. What would be good and not break the bank? this is what it looks like but has no sights.

[TacticalCowboy]

Standard A2 type sights can be had for about $25, and that's what I'd use. Not a fan of red dots.

[BigTex.308]

Standard A2 type sights can be had for about $25, and that's what I'd use. Not a fan of red dots.

What do you have against red dots?


Ike

[BigTex.308]

For a .22 like that I'd pick up a cheap red dot from Primary Arms or Vortex.

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The PA Micro Dot is for sale here for less than $100: http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-M...ords=micro+dot



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Vortex Strikefire for $179: http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-.../dp/B00MAJKX9M
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Vortex SPARC for $199: http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-...keywords=SPARC
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Any of those will serve you well for use on a 22lr. I wouldn't reccomend them for serious use on a 5.56/.223 but they're perfect for 22s!




Ike

[Slingblade]

For a .22 like that I'd pick up a cheap red dot from Primary Arms or Vortex.

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The PA Micro Dot is for sale here for less than $100: http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-M...ords=micro+dot



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Any of those will serve you well for use on a 22lr. I wouldn't reccomend them for serious use on a 5.56/.223 but they're perfect for 22s!




Ike

How hard are they to sight in? I have never used one. Is it just like a regular scope windage and elivation adj. the same?

[BigTex.308]

How hard are they to sight in? I have never used one. Is it just like a regular scope windage and elivation adj. the same?

Exactly the same as any "traditional scope" You have windage and elevation adjustments only difference is they move the dot instead of corsshairs.


If you can sight in a scope you'll have no problem at all with a red dot.



Ike

[trophy8]

PA red dot as Ike suggested would be a good choice.

[Mike D]

I have a primary arms red dot on my M&P 15-22.

[TacticalCowboy]

What do you have against red dots?


Ike

The dot covers too much of the target. The don't gather light at night. There is no magnification when you want to shoot at a squirrel at 40 yards.

I have more if you're interested. If I was too put a scope on that rifle (and I would), it would be a 2-7 or 3x9

[trophy8]

The dot covers too much of the target. The don't gather light at night. There is no magnification when you want to shoot at a squirrel at 40 yards.

I have more if you're interested. If I was too put a scope on that rifle (and I would), it would be a 2-7 or 3x9

They have different size dots, I would expect and expert such as yourself to know that.

You should be able to hit a squirrel easily at 40 yards with one. I shot an easily killed an oryx with my suppressed 30-30 with a trijicon RMR on top.... zero magnafication, at 160 yards.

They dont need to gather light. Its like looking through a pair of glasses. Turn the brightness of the dot down so it doesnt drowned everything out and youre good to go.

Red dots are an excellent choic for fast target aquisition. I have an aimpoint t1 on my 10.5" 5.56 and can easily shoot 300 yards with it. Id hunt with it inside 200 for sure. Throw a pvs 14 behind it and it makes for a good time.

Some folks dont care for red dots, some dont care for scopes.... everyone has their opinion.

[TxWizzard]

Bushnell trs 25

I've seen the for $60. Now $75.

http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU

They look like the primary arms one mentioned above. Probably comes from same Chinese factory

[TxWizzard]

I can shoot sub 1" groups at 50 yards with that red dot on a 15-22. I adjust the dot down to the smallest I can with still easily seeing it.

[BigTex.308]

The dot covers too much of the target. The don't gather light at night. There is no magnification when you want to shoot at a squirrel at 40 yards.

I have more if you're interested. If I was too put a scope on that rifle (and I would), it would be a 2-7 or 3x9

Interesting.




Ike

[TxWizzard]

$115
Bushnell AR Optics Drop Zone-22 BDC Rimfire Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets, 2-7x 32mm

http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-22-Rimfire-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP4KNM

Will need mount
$25ish. It's a primary arms mount. Also made in China but works. It's can do 30mm or 1"

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=141638933898&globalID=EBAY-US

[TxWizzard]

You can also do a nice first focal plane scope.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/144979/pride-fowler-rapid-reticle-evolution-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-3-12x-42mm-first-focal-illuminated-ballistic-22lr-reticle-matte

Cheaper here...but midway has reviews. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/produ...lack?a=1518633

But they are not cheap.

I went the bushnell red dot route. It's cheap, easy, has mount and light