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    #16
    Im personally going to go with a Hart when I get ready to finish my build. have you looked into a 6.5-.284?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Walding1989 View Post
      Im personally going to go with a Hart when I get ready to finish my build. have you looked into a 6.5-.284?
      The questions i have regarding this caliber is will it fit in and feed in my existing magazine, and is the case head the same as a 30-06? I know custom and money go hand in hand but i am wanting to be some what frugal without sacrificing quality, so i do not want to have to change alot of what i have now. This will be a multi-step build, but usable the whole time.

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        #18
        yep that action will work. my 6.5-.284 has a 26 inch shilen on it and it will shoot less than .5 at 100yds. im shooting 140 berger vld hunting bullets averaging 2994 fps. it hammers deer and hogs.

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          #19
          mine is built on a long action it helps being on a long action so you can seat those long skinny 6.5 bullets out.

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            #20
            Originally posted by jnors06 View Post
            I have love for the 25-06 but im not loyal to it, i know it works very well and it has been poison on everything i have shot with it. After thinking about it i am wanting to build a gun that will cover any hunting scenario i may find myself in. And to do that i am thinking a 280AI might fit the bill better than the 1/4 bore.

            What barrel length are y'all thinking for the 280AI? I am figuring on sticking with 25" fluted.

            Pacnors website list the weight of a 25" sendero contour with 6 20" flutes at 4.04LBS. I would like to stay under 10LBS fully outfitted. Does anyone have a reccomendation for the fluting length?

            I will try and call pacnor today and discuss all of this with them as i'm sure they will have all of my answers.

            I'm pretty much set with going with Pac-nor due to the wait time and being able to get all i want done under my initial budget of 700.
            Yep...if you want a hot .25cal get the 257wby. The 280AI will give you the best overall efficiency / increase for this particular parent case. You will not be disappointed.

            I own a 26" Hart...I think that length is optimal for a blind / sitting application gun with the 280AI. I have a McMillian stock in the Winchester marksman style & is similar to a sendero type set up but balances a bit better be it off a small sandbag off a blind window or the shooting sticks. Not sure why but I could not be more pleased. No idea of the weight but I don't ever walk more than 1/4 mile to any of my hunting spots with that particular gun. I'm sure it's around 10lbs but weight isn't a big concern for what that gun is used for & prefer a tad heavier gun for sitting.

            Good luck & have fun.

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              #21
              6.5x284 is what I'm having built right now. Your action will work.

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                #22
                Another barrel maker to consider, McGowen in Kalispell, Montana.
                They built my 264 and Creedmore's 280AI .
                Both shoot lights out.

                As for chambering, 280AI gets my nod.
                So many more bullet choices in .284 vs .257

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Walding1989 View Post
                  yep that action will work. my 6.5-.284 has a 26 inch shilen on it and it will shoot less than .5 at 100yds. im shooting 140 berger vld hunting bullets averaging 2994 fps. it hammers deer and hogs.
                  I had a sweedish mauser action given to me in 6.5x55 and I'm torn between going this direction (which was recommended to me by a friend) or changing it to a 7x57 (my uncle just finished his build of that caliber on a true german mauser action. FREAKING SWEET SETUP!!)

                  CB, you want to offer an opinion on this?

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                    #24
                    Alright so let's drop the the .25-06 and compare the 6.5x284 and the 280 AI.

                    What does the green screen say between these two? Let's say 600yds and in for deer sized game. I know the 6.5x284 is going to beat out the 280 ballistically speaking, and I know they'll both kill things just as dead, but which will do it better?

                    I'm wanting to have a consistent 1/2 MOA Performer, less would always be better. Also the ability to cleanly take elk sized animals.

                    The deeper I get into this the harder the decision is getting.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by jnors06 View Post
                      Alright so let's drop the the .25-06 and compare the 6.5x284 and the 280 AI.

                      What does the green screen say between these two? Let's say 600yds and in for deer sized game. I know the 6.5x284 is going to beat out the 280 ballistically speaking, and I know they'll both kill things just as dead, but which will do it better?

                      I'm wanting to have a consistent 1/2 MOA Performer, less would always be better. Also the ability to cleanly take elk sized animals.

                      The deeper I get into this the harder the decision is getting.
                      I am not well versed in 6.5x284 but some quick Google work shows me the following.

                      6.5x284 has 3 options in factory ammo while 280AI has 1.

                      6.5x284 seems to have a reputation for short barrel life. Dont know if this is valid but I saw the reference more than twice.

                      6.5x284 seems to be falling off right in the 280 AI's sweet spot. What I mean is that with 140g bullets (using advertised factory ammo specs) the 6.5 will yield about 2868 fps where the 280 will be 3050. The 280 also has the ability to step up in bullet weight should you decide to go on an Elk hunt.

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                        #26
                        unless your going to be runnin 168 grain bullets or something close to that in the .280AI the 6.5 will have a better bc and it has a phenominal sd which means penetration the 6.5 will take deer and elk as far as you are probably capable of shootin and I mean that in no offense.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by bboswell View Post
                          I am not well versed in 6.5x284 but some quick Google work shows me the following.

                          6.5x284 has 3 options in factory ammo while 280AI has 1.

                          6.5x284 seems to have a reputation for short barrel life. Dont know if this is valid but I saw the reference more than twice.

                          6.5x284 seems to be falling off right in the 280 AI's sweet spot. What I mean is that with 140g bullets (using advertised factory ammo specs) the 6.5 will yield about 2868 fps where the 280 will be 3050. The 280 also has the ability to step up in bullet weight should you decide to go on an Elk hunt.
                          6.5x284 has 9 options in Factory ammo from Midway.

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                            #28
                            6.5 you're realistically talking 100-140 gr bullets.
                            You can get 6.5 160s but they are going to be a round nose bullet not a spitzer.
                            Yes they have some high BCs and the 6.5x284 is an excellent 1000 yard match cartridge. As stated it will kill stuff way out there.

                            The 280 you can shoot from 120 -175 gr bullets although I think your best performers are going to be in the 140-168 gr range.
                            The 280AI is knocking on the door of the 7MM Rem Magnum burning 10 grains less powder and less felt recoil.

                            As for factory 280 AI ammo, yes Nosler loads it.
                            But you can shoot any factory 280 Remington ammo through it too.
                            All you will be doing is fire forming the cases to the AI shoulder.

                            I've been shooting a 280 Remington for over 20 years on deer.
                            It's never failed me with 140 grain bullets.
                            The 280 AI is a 280 Remington on steroids.

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                              #29
                              I have almost the gun you are thinking about building, I have a 700 Rem action, cut for Sako extractor, trued and lugs fit, 25inch Lilja barrel, fluted sendero contour, HS precision stock and Jewel trigger. Mine is .280 AI, can't go wrong with that caliber, love it..

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                                #30
                                Y'all don't be scared to post some pictures of these rifles ya keep talking about. I'm starting from scratch here and need some visual ideas.

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