Gun Trust

[mesquitecountry]

Whom is everyone using these days? I have a friend asking.

[Paslaw0311]

4 stamps and counting on my quicken willmaker trust

[MarkV]

Cole Bryan

[Coach W]

Sean Cody
Cole Bryan
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[trophy8]

Cole bryan

I would post this about 10 more times but ill just say this. I have alot of freinds that have his trusts, as do I, and alot that have a Sean Cody trust. The difference? Sean is $200 more ($450).... Both are top notch trusts, Cole will just save you money (his is $200-250). We have numerous approvals on our trust from suppressors to SBRs and waiting on 2 approvals on machine guns

[Iehooligan11b]

I used Sean Cody

[Chad C]

Whom is everyone using these days? I have a friend asking.

Sean Cody (281) 451-4175 shoot him a text. Sean gave me the BIL
(after joking around on the phone) discount, it's way less than $450.

[jmoney]

4 stamps and counting on my quicken willmaker trust

Call the lawyer, skip this program. It will cost you thousands to undo the damage you can do with quicken.

[rookie11]

Call the lawyer, skip this program. It will cost you thousands to undo the damage you can do with quicken.

I didn't use Quiken for my trust but curious as to what damage you are referring to.

[jmoney]

4 stamps and counting on my quicken willmaker trust

I didn't use Quiken for my trust but curious as to what damage you are referring to.

The program often creates problems because people don't understand trust formalities or what is required for proper trust formation, and what clauses need to be added to suit a person's circumstances properly. The problem with the software is that it uses a standard boilerplate form and lulls the user into a sense of confidence that everything is going to be ok, when in reality the form lacks the sufficiency to either meet the (a) requirements of formation (b) doesn't violate the rule against perpetuities (c) properly lists the trust property; (d) properly ascertains the beneficiaries.

What I have seen a lot are people trying to probate wills made with quicken. Unfortunately for them, the wills were completely screwed up and they were forced to deal with intestate succession, which pretty much destroyed what the actual testator's intent was. On top of that, the family was paying $250/hr to undo the mess, and it took a lot of hours.

When it comes to class III items, you are investing a good chunk of money, there is absolutely no reason not to cough up $350-400 for a real lawyer, in TEXAS, who understands the particularities of texas law, probate, and trust formation, to make sure your items don't become a legal nightmare for your intended beneficiaries or yourself.

[LWD]

The program often creates problems because people don't understand trust formalities or what is required for proper trust formation, and what clauses need to be added to suit a person's circumstances properly. The problem with the software is that it uses a standard boilerplate form and lulls the user into a sense of confidence that everything is going to be ok, when in reality the form lacks the sufficiency to either meet the (a) requirements of formation (b) doesn't violate the rule against perpetuities (c) properly lists the trust property; (d) properly ascertains the beneficiaries.

What I have seen a lot are people trying to probate wills made with quicken. Unfortunately for them, the wills were completely screwed up and they were forced to deal with intestate succession, which pretty much destroyed what the actual testator's intent was. On top of that, the family was paying $250/hr to undo the mess, and it took a lot of hours.

When it comes to class III items, you are investing a good chunk of money, there is absolutely no reason not to cough up $350-400 for a real lawyer, in TEXAS, who understands the particularities of texas law, probate, and trust formation, to make sure your items don't become a legal nightmare for your intended beneficiaries or yourself.

This for sure. Why people want to save a few dollars when they are spending thousands and the alternative is federal prison.......

LWD

[Tye]

[stxhunter]

I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202
jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone.

[Mike D]

The program often creates problems because people don't understand trust formalities or what is required for proper trust formation, and what clauses need to be added to suit a person's circumstances properly. The problem with the software is that it uses a standard boilerplate form and lulls the user into a sense of confidence that everything is going to be ok, when in reality the form lacks the sufficiency to either meet the (a) requirements of formation (b) doesn't violate the rule against perpetuities (c) properly lists the trust property; (d) properly ascertains the beneficiaries.

What I have seen a lot are people trying to probate wills made with quicken. Unfortunately for them, the wills were completely screwed up and they were forced to deal with intestate succession, which pretty much destroyed what the actual testator's intent was. On top of that, the family was paying $250/hr to undo the mess, and it took a lot of hours.

When it comes to class III items, you are investing a good chunk of money, there is absolutely no reason not to cough up $350-400 for a real lawyer, in TEXAS, who understands the particularities of texas law, probate, and trust formation, to make sure your items don't become a legal nightmare for your intended beneficiaries or yourself.

Absolutely! Why anybody wants to be a cheap *** on this is beyond me.

And FWIW, the ATF-NFA approval branch is not in business to review trusts for legalities. Could you imagine the wait times if they reviewed each submission in a trust?!

Just because you have had items get approved does not mean your trust is legal and/or valid.

I used Sean Cody.

[jmoney]

Absolutely! Why anybody wants to be a cheap *** on this is beyond me.

And FWIW, the ATF-NFA approval branch is not in business to review trusts for legalities. Could you imagine the wait times if they reviewed each submission in a trust?!

Just because you have had items get approved does not mean your trust is legal and/or valid.

I used Sean Cody.

EXACTLY. ATF only looks for their requirements, there is no way they could be in the business of being sure that each trust complies with the each states' formalities on trusts. EACH state is going to have different probate code. This is why you can START with a boilerplate, but it needs to be altered to fit the legal requirements of each state. Ignorance, mistake, or error will not get you out of the nightmare you got yourself into because you wanted to save $200.