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Originally posted by Coach W View PostJust today a guy was saying an individual can build a pistol from a rifle... hes going to prison, hes not going to die... so I said nothing.
Not being "Stupid" but asking a serious question. Isnt a Thompson Center a rifle that can be made into a pistol? I thought everything was fine if its a "rifle" or a "pistol" but not a rifle with a pistol (or any sub16") barrel. You can have a pistol grip on a 16"+ barrel but not the other way around without a stamp, correct? I really want to know cause I actually saw this argument the other day and it got me thinking and wondering about the shotguns with pistol grips and the TC guns.
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Follow this link - it will open a PDF from the ATF
The gist -
BATFE Ruling 2011-4 – Pistol to a Rifle and back to a Pistol
Today, at the NFATCA Firearm Importer, Exporter and Manufacturer Conference, the BATFE announced that Acting Director Melson issued Ruling 2011-4, regarding whether a pistol can be converted to a rifle and then back to a pistol, without having to register the firearm as a short-barreled rifle. While the Ruling has not yet been published,ATF Deputy Chief Steve Albro stated that the Ruling holds that a pistol may be converted to a Title I rifle (non-SBR) and back to a pistol without having to register the firearm as a Short-Barreled Rifle under the NFA. However, if the firearm starts life as a rifle, the Ruling further holds, that it cannot be converted to a pistol without registering it as a Short-Barreled Rifle under the NFA. As soon as the Ruling is posted, I will update this posting with a copy and any additional holdings.
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Oh and it's only >16 for a rifle; a smoothbore is >18". For a rifle, the barrel has to be 16+" and a total length on 26" to be considered a long gun. Now that's not to say a "pistol" can't have a barrel over 16", but to be considered a long gun it's barrel must be >16" and total length of >26" no matter if it has a pistol grip on not. Just better not put a shoulder stock on a rifle barrel <16" or shotgun barrel <18" w/o correct paperwork.
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The way TC gets around the pistol barrels that chamber a .410 is they have rifling so technically it is not a "smoothbore" and therefore legal to own w/o a tax stamp.
And they are fun to shoot, but that's really about it... I have patterned both 10" & 14" barrels and neither provide much after about 15 to 20 yards. But with that said, I have killed turkeys using #4's out of both, so they can effectively take game if you make sure shots are within a relatively short distance.Last edited by springer222; 10-16-2014, 05:20 AM.
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