Who was at the capitol on January 6?

[CoolHandLuke]

The feds work for him


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He does sound a lot like Biden![emoji1787][emoji2371]

[bloodtrailer28]

I am wondering why a stupid, pointed question was asked in the first place?

What's your angle?

My thoughts as well

[Chompers]

I can tell you where I wasn’t… Portland

[manwitaplan]

Videos of antifa changing into maga outfits...not presented.

Videos of capital police escorting folks inside...not presented.

Videos of capital police opening magnetic locking doors to allow folks in...not presented.

Every official on 6th committee voted to impeach trump...no counter testimony / defensive cross examination allowed. Straight up soviet / north korea tactics. TDS is real.

Facts are dumb. I would like to say I am shocked that others do not understand this. But the last 19 months have made me accept that our general public is not very intelligent or politically educated. I always blamed millennials for this craziness until TBH proved that theory wrong. Long live America and the ones that support her.

The first insurrection in history that was attempted without a single gun present....



Astounding



I am not sure how some of you tie your shoes in the morning

No doubt. But remember 81 million voted for the POTUS

I am wondering why a stupid, pointed question was asked in the first place?

What's your angle?

It could be a legit question. But dripping fuel on a hot spot makes no sense. Not sure why now.


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[TKC]

I am wondering why a stupid, pointed question was asked in the first place?

What's your angle?

This right here, question isn’t sketchy at all.

[Burnadell]

Once again, I did not start this thread to argue over the various points, and I am not going to do your searching for video proof. There are plenty of videos out there evidencing the breeching of the capitol and the police being attacked...140 police were injured. I have also seen the videos where some of the police allowed the crowd to go in certain sections of the capitol. They were overwhelmed. I also realize that, as large as the crowd was, anyone in the back would not know what was going on in the front or inside the building. Nevertheless, if some of you are denying that there was an insurrection and riot with the crowd overtaking some of the police, then you have your head in the sand!

As for guns, who knows how many were carried that day. Fortunately, the ones who had them didn't use them, but the guy from Longview (Ryan Nichols) admitted he had brought several weapons but said he did not take them to the capitol. He attacked the police with flag poles. His buddy, Alex Harkrider, however had a tomahawk type axe and used it to break windows out of the capitol to allow access. Video shows him doing it and also shows Nichols admitting that he "stands for violence."

I have "no angle" here...just trying to remember who it was that said they had their tickets and were going. I would like to hear their story. Still, if they weren't in the front of the crowd or in the capitol, they may not have seen any violence. You, who deny that there was violence, are denying the simple truth. Facts are facts.

[Artos]

There was no insurrection.

Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.”

Nobody is doubting people went into the capitol & shenanigans happening.

The fact the msm & this sham of committee is scheming together to attempt a bogus prosecution of trump with the sole purpose to keep him from running in 2024 is beyond ludicrous at this point. I could go on & on about trump offering the guard days before & nancy rejecting the offer & so many other facts that could squash the committee in a day, but I understand this isn't where you want your thread to go.

I don't recall anyone here saying they were going...I do remember on 'the thread' there was major pleading to actually stay away from capital after the speech. Those folks held without due process in the name of 'insurrection' isn't the America we used to know. Lots of bad medicine in all this.

[Death from Above]

If J6 was an insurection...then so were all of the riots that took place in the summer of love. why the double stand by big brother?

I do not agree with what happened. I also know that there were portions of what took place the citizens are responsible for. I also know that there are portions of what took place that certain folks in the govt are responsible for.

I know Ryan, and I know is father even better. The question needs to be asked, what would cause a vet/patriot/lover of mankind to respond in such a manner?

The guy is not an idiot and his success post Corps service proves it...

The real question is why no due process for them and why the forced cover up of alot of evidence?

Why no cross exam or exploratory in the J6 public fiasco?


There is no link to a video or article that can be produced that will convince me that the GOV did not have a hand in allowing/enabling the J6 to happen.

I trust big media even less than big brother.

[Burnadell]

There was no insurrection.

Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.”

Nobody is doubting people went into the capitol & shenanigans happening.

The fact the msm & this sham of committee is scheming together to attempt a bogus prosecution of trump with the sole purpose to keep him from running in 2024 is beyond ludicrous at this point. I could go on & on about trump offering the guard days before & nancy rejecting the offer & so many other facts that could squash the committee in a day, but I understand this isn't where you want your thread to go.

I don't recall anyone here saying they were going...I do remember on 'the thread' there was major pleading to actually stay away from capital after the speech. Those folks held without due process in the name of 'insurrection' isn't the America we used to know. Lots of bad medicine in all this.

We are on the same side here, Artos, but we are just going to have to agree to disagree. How can you say there was no insurrection??? You just quoted the definition, then admitted people breeched the capitol...for shenanigans??? They have video admitted that they were going to drag their asses down the streets...and cut their heads off. It was darn sure an attempted insurrection. Read the definition you just posted. C'mon man! Crap. I said I was not going to argue this and here I am. If you can't admit that many stormed the capitol with the intent of doing damage and harm, then you are just being hard headed and in denial.

I'm out!

[Burnadell]

If J6 was an insurection...then so were all of the riots that took place in the summer of love. why the double stand by big brother?

I do not agree with what happened. I also know that there were portions of what took place the citizens are responsible for. I also know that there are portions of what took place that certain folks in the govt are responsible for.

I know Ryan, and I know is father even better. The question needs to be asked, what would cause a vet/patriot/lover of mankind to respond in such a manner?

The guy is not an idiot and his success post Corps service proves it...

The real question is why no due process for them and why the forced cover up of alot of evidence?

Why no cross exam or exploratory in the J6 public fiasco?


There is no link to a video or article that can be produced that will convince me that the GOV did not have a hand in allowing/enabling the J6 to happen.

I trust big media even less than big brother.

My research reflects that Ryan is a decent and good family man. He and Harkrider have done good voluntary service to the victims of the Louisiana hurricane(s). I believe that they and others simply got caught up in the emotion and events of the day and didn't stop short of breaking the law. Sadly, they and their families will pay for it. He stated that he stood for violence! I am sure he regrets his actions.

I have not kept up with the trial and don't plan on it.

[Artos]

I understand, but causing damage & harm isn't a literal attempt of overthrowing a govt in an attempt to take it over Randy...there was a capital riot which caused damage & harm.

A true insurrection would have had bodies lying dead all over the capital from both sides & lead flying everywhere...insurrection was a convenient word to demonize trump.

[Ætheling]

How can anyone believe that the US Govt was going to or even attempted to be overthrown on Jan 6? To take over the US Govt you will need to first defeat the US Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and Airforce. Then you will need to defeat any and all militia groups and the seize every govt building in the US, Federal, State, and Local. Good Grief!!

[Burnadell]

Okay, Pablo.

What were they trying to do?

[Artos]

If it were a a true insurrection we would be holding treason hearings & have a pile of dead bodies. Sri Lanka actually just had a true definition of insurrection & ran that govt literally out of town. All I'm saying is riot fits the correct definition of Jan 6, not insurrection.

I've stayed on it since it happened & think we got bad players on 3 sides...the ultimate goal may not succeed, but they are on the right track in their attempt to place all blame on trump. The end goal is to blame it all on trump & stop his 24 bid. They have already announced these hearing will run into the fall. I honestly believe this was what 'they' wanted & needed to happen.

I saw enough videos to know that antifa & swamp bad actors were primary agitators to breaching the capital...there were also plenty of upset folks who felt the election was stolen & participated in the same bad deeds. Unfortunately, lots of otherwise patriots got caught up & ignorantly walked through the capital. Some still incarcerated with no proof of anything other than leaving footprints. (in the name of insurrection) One of the reasons I hate they labeled it one & are justifying no due process.

The fact the mayor of DC & Pelosi denied Trump's request to have the guard present for Jan 6 speaks volumes, but it cannot be spoken at the commission...it's really all about trump & 2024. Nothing else is a close second or matters. Also Lots of bizarre deaths surrounding the 6th most don't know about.

Facts are dumb. I would like to say I am shocked that others do not understand this. But the last 19 months have made me accept that our general public is not very intelligent or politically educated. I always blamed millennials for this craziness until TBH proved that theory wrong. Long live America and the ones that support her.

This is worth repeating & not meant towards you Randy...there is just SO MUCH video & 411 that the masses have no clue about. The msm is controlling the entire narrative around the 6th & those that get their 30mins of nightly news know nothing of anything other than 'trump evil...maga worse.'

[EarleyBird]

We are on the same side here, Artos, but we are just going to have to agree to disagree. How can you say there was no insurrection??? You just quoted the definition, then admitted people breeched the capitol...for shenanigans??? They have video admitted that they were going to drag their asses down the streets...and cut their heads off. It was darn sure an attempted insurrection. Read the definition you just posted. C'mon man! Crap. I said I was not going to argue this and here I am. If you can't admit that many stormed the capitol with the intent of doing damage and harm, then you are just being hard headed and in denial.

I'm out!

Good grief.