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Originally posted by Clay C View PostArming up schools or banning guns are bandaids. This is a societal problem and is a symptom and a failing society. A-holes in DC or your local school board can’t fix this.
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Originally posted by Strummer View PostHere is the shooter. Of course the left is blaming far right wing and gun control instead of mental illness.
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Originally posted by MassMan View Post
It’s still possible, last sentence says it almost certain it’s fake. That don’t hold water until prover for sure it’s fake . They can’t be hurting the Lbgqlmnop agenda
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Active shooter in Uvalde
Originally posted by andre3k View PostOff base? Explain.
Do you and your background represent the majority of teachers in Texas?
No.
Dont get offended. It wasn’t meant that way. I literally became a teacher because of school shootings. Specifically Parkland and Santa Fe.
Outstide of 4 years of Accounting I have an extensive career in LE/Military/Security. 4 different positions directly with the Federal govt and multiple in private key resource and critical infrastructure with a force of almost 400 individuals armed and un armed and security budgets in the tens of millions annually. I have also been an active shooter scenario trainer with DHS, federal not local.
We are talking about SRT/SWAT training here. Most LE isn’t even trained to deal with the complex issues at hand of an active shooter/hostage scenario around hundreds to thousands of school children. Even the cops in the schools aren’t adequately trained or armed to deal with it. Physical security is key here and it seems this school failed. Probably due to population density and economic factors. You aren’t going to train, keep up with required continued training, and get multiple weekly range time to 24 and 60 year old women because thats what teachers are for the most part.
I have spent the last 3 years studying the situation carefully. I dont have time to write all the physical infrastructure security requirements needed to keep kids away from gunfire but trust me, arming teachers and getting them the required training is impossible. A good lockdown procedure along with the right physical security barriers at each classroom door is paramount.
Please dont take offense I did not mean any.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by Ætheling; 05-24-2022, 07:22 PM.
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Originally posted by Ætheling View PostDont get offended. It wasn’t meant that way. I literally became a teacher because of school shootings. Specifically Parkland and Santa Fe.
Outstide of 4 years of Accounting I have an extensive career in LE/Military/Security. 4 different positions directly with the Federal govt and multiple in private key resource and critical infrastructure with a force of almost 400 individuals armed and un armed. I have also been an active shooter scenario trainer with DHS, federal not local.
We are talking about SRT/SWAT training here. Most LE isn’t even trained to deal with the complex issues at hand of an active shooter/hostage scenario around hundreds to thousands of school children. Even the cops in the schools aren’t adequately trained or armed to deal with it. Physical security is key here and it seems this school failed. Probably due to population density and economic factors. You aren’t going to train, keep up with required continued training, and get multiple weekly range time to 24 and 60 year old women because thats what teachers are for the most part.
I literally became a teacher over this. I have spent the last 3 years studying the situation carefully. I dont have time to write all the physical infrastructure security requirements needed to keep kids away from gunfire but trust me, arming teachers and getting them the required training is impossible. A good lockdown procedure along with the right physical security barriers at each classroom door is paramount.
Please dont take offense I did not mean any.
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Thank you for what you do and your indepth knowledge!
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Originally posted by Ætheling View PostDont get offended. It wasn’t meant that way. I literally became a teacher because of school shootings. Specifically Parkland and Santa Fe.
Outstide of 4 years of Accounting I have an extensive career in LE/Military/Security. 4 different positions directly with the Federal govt and multiple in private key resource and critical infrastructure with a force of almost 400 individuals armed and un armed and security budgets in the tens of millions annually. I have also been an active shooter scenario trainer with DHS, federal not local.
We are talking about SRT/SWAT training here. Most LE isn’t even trained to deal with the complex issues at hand of an active shooter/hostage scenario around hundreds to thousands of school children. Even the cops in the schools aren’t adequately trained or armed to deal with it. Physical security is key here and it seems this school failed. Probably due to population density and economic factors. You aren’t going to train, keep up with required continued training, and get multiple weekly range time to 24 and 60 year old women because thats what teachers are for the most part.
I literally became a teacher over this. I have spent the last 3 years studying the situation carefully. I dont have time to write all the physical infrastructure security requirements needed to keep kids away from gunfire but trust me, arming teachers and getting them the required training is impossible. A good lockdown procedure along with the right physical security barriers at each classroom door is paramount.
Please dont take offense I did not mean any.
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Only thing with lock downs , if the kid goes to the school he knows exactly what the kids are going to do .
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Originally posted by andre3k View PostI think districts need to prep teachers and staff on dealing with an active shooter. IMO lockdowns and hiding isn't a plan.
If staff fought back you wouldn't have as many victims. You don't necessarily have to be armed, but you have to be mentally prepped to fight back and I guess this is where the priority of life scale comes into play.
I tell my officers sometimes that them making it home at the end of the shift isn't their first priority. Sometimes the life of a stranger needs to come before yours. A lot of officers totally disagree with that.
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Prayers sent^ for the families affected in this.
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Originally posted by DFWPI View PostIt was nothing to see shotguns and rifles in unlocked trucks Worth windows down at our high school in the late 1970’s. Funny that we never had a shooting.
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Also in the 80’s. All these shootings started when they took corporal punishment out of schools, stopped failing kids when they didn’t pass their grade, started letting parents sue school administrators and teachers, and the Texas legislature passing assault laws when two people can’t duke it out without going to jail. Kids have absolutely no coping skills, because a lot of parents won’t allow their kids to cope with kid or teenager drama. It’s absolutely unbelievable how our society has changed because of laws that have been passed that have taken discipline out of schools. My wife is a third grade teacher, and it is unbelievable how parents treat their kids and make all kinds of excuses for their kids, when their kids misbehave or doesn’t do their homework. And actually complains about their poor kids are getting to much homework. But those same parents has their kids at ball games four or five nights a week till late. Unbelievable.
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