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    #61
    Originally posted by Johnny44 View Post
    But mRNA technology is a complete failure thus far and the reason they are exempt from liability.

    And the wheel from 8000 BC last much longer than the 2013 version
    lol , 8000 BC wheel probably last 100 miles , the 2013 tire about 50,000 and the wheel/ rim 200-500,000

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      #62
      Originally posted by glen View Post
      Matagordian- I hope you are right but nobody knows. Ive said from the start- people would be more comfortable with a traditional vaccine that injects your body with a small portion of virus so you build immunity by fighting it. This has been used for decades. There are some adverse effects but they are known and a person can calculate. People that are not vaccinating now are doing just the above without a shot- Some can now fight off yhe virus some cant. Sounds a lot like the Flu. Why not vaccinate like we have the flu for generations. And still lots of folks wont get it just like flu shots. Just like it should be their choice.
      I'm becoming a believer that repeated small exposures may be the deal breaker. I think a great many of us have experienced these exposures.

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        #63
        Originally posted by S-3 Ranch View Post
        I try to keep a open mind on things, it’s the 21st century, we have evolved from blood letting in the the 18th century to antibiotics in the 20th and are working on

        Anti viral in the 21st , I am sure we will get this thing figured out, Novavax or the other 3 vaccine, glad we are effecting a pincher movement with older and newer technologies, this mRNA technology could mean lots more diseases like hemorrhagic fever, flue , Covid, sars ,malaria Zika ,ect with mutations can be defeated with less effort ! Let’s see how it works out, hopefully for the better !!

        We will never now unless we try
        You are 100% correct! There's hundreds of thousands of graves full of people that have helped scientist figure out what works and what doesn't work! The people who are most fearful will always be "convinced" that they need to be saved from some eminant danger. Thus allowing experimental procedures to be done on them and their family. It has been this way since man started walking on this earth! The only difference in the experiment of today is the emergence of social networking and politicization of science.

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          #64
          Everything I've seen on the JJ jab is it not a traditional vax creating antibodies...it too works on the guise of targeting the spike proteins.

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            #65
            From my VERY limited knowledge about viruses. (Im in water and wastewater field) i think all the viruses have some protein protection around them. It what allows them to stay together. Thats what also makes them all look different under a electron microscope.

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              #66
              Covid under electron microscope

              The small round spheres are covid infecting other cells.
              I pretty sure what the vaccine does is train your immune system like this:

              "See this 278 buck. If you see him even after dark, put a arrow in him. If he runs off to someone else property, you go shoot him."
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                #67
                another cell not as infected by covid

                Again covid are the round spheres
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                  #68
                  Oh i see. Problem is that it is trained to shoot the 278 inch buck but he broke a tip of a tine off so now he is 276 inches. Not trained to shoot a 276 inch so it now doesnt work for the same buck. You put it in lingo deer hunters should understand

                  Thats the problem with the current vaccines. They are not effective for XYZ strain just the A strain.
                  Last edited by glen; 08-15-2021, 10:58 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by glen View Post
                    Oh i see. Problem is that it is trained to shoot the 278 inch buck but he broke a tip of a tine off so now he is 276 inches. Not trained to shoot a 276 inch so it now doesnt work for the same buck. You put it in lingo deer hunters should understand
                    I would say yes. The delta variant has bigger junk, different tail, 3 eyes.
                    Your immune system always remembers what it fought off.

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                      #70
                      I’m all for the shot. I just said the data is skewed because 60% are immune.

                      Take the shot

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                        #71
                        So at this moment in time your natural ability should allow you to shoot at both a 278 inch deer and a 276 inch deer or any other deer as long as you train and prepare for it- but if I take this 278 inch deer shot ill only be ready to shoot this one deer?

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                          #72
                          Your immune system in hunting terms:

                          You are killing machine. Trained to shoot deer, hogs, squirrels, ants, eagles, duck, geese, rabbits. It takes you a while to get get good at killing a certain animal.

                          All the sudden a bear comes at you, it catches you off guard. What is this new animal?
                          Can you kill it before it kills you?

                          The vaccine is a training video. Now, when you see this bear, it knows how you kill it.

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                            #73
                            But the video shows you how to kill a female black bear and not a boar. Or just put out another video to kill a boar black bear, polar bear, heck at this point its a bunch of juggling bears we need to be scared of (government & media).

                            And i do understand virus mutations as I was a Biology student that became a cop after school. They are a simple critter that just makes small changes to find new hosts to survive. They mutate and usually become weaker and by the end dont even resemble the same critter. There will not be a vaccine - im just hoping a more effective “shot” is developed
                            Last edited by glen; 08-15-2021, 12:12 PM.

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                              #74
                              Trust your government, everything they touch is a complete sucess

                              Originally posted by matagordian View Post
                              Your immune system in hunting terms:

                              You are killing machine. Trained to shoot deer, hogs, squirrels, ants, eagles, duck, geese, rabbits. It takes you a while to get get good at killing a certain animal.

                              All the sudden a bear comes at you, it catches you off guard. What is this new animal?
                              Can you kill it before it kills you?

                              The vaccine is a training video. Now, when you see this bear, it knows how you kill it.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Johnny44 View Post
                                Trust your government, everything they touch is a complete sucess

                                The vaccine is not made by the government. They ordered it like you order a whataburger.

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