Phil for President

[super_dave]

SS, you are wrong. All of GODs people, including those like Danno and Jews and Muslims and Buddist and Hindu, etc., will have everlasting life with GOD. As you pointed out, EVERY knee will bend. Every knee. Not just Christians, everyone. Can you honestly say that GOD made billions and billions of people who are condemned to hell from the get go? Or, make some session that will cast them to ****ation for eternity. This kind of message is what the Christians churches have been sending for centuries to control the masses. Jesus came to us to tell us the Truth, that everyone is going to have eternal life with him on earth, a perfect earth.

This is a lie


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[SabineHunter]

This is a lie


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Okay. That's All you have?

[super_dave]

Okay. That's All you have?

There is nothing biblical about your stance. If you are gonna say “this is what “God” says” about anything at least make accurate statements about how he accepts His into eternity.
John 14:6
Matthew 7:14-21

If you say no one will be condemned to Hell, why does Jesus speak of it so many times? More times than He did of Heaven in fact.

That book is scary deceptive and if what you posted was the cliff note version it’s gonna send a lot of people to a place that it claims doesn’t even exist.


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[huntingfanatic]

This is a lie


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Yep. Pretty strong words but truth

Matthew 7 13-14
13 Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide [a]is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby. 14 [b]For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it.

John 14:6

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[SabineHunter]

There is nothing biblical about your stance. If you are gonna say “this is what “God” says” about anything at least make accurate statements about how he accepts His into eternity.
John 14:6
Matthew 7:14-21

If you say no one will be condemned to Hell, why does Jesus speak of it so many times? More times than He did of Heaven in fact.

That book is scary deceptive and if what you posted was the cliff note version it’s gonna send a lot of people to a place that it claims doesn’t even exist.


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I am not even close to posting the book's cliff note version and I am not going to get into a scripture war here. I didn't say that all will go to heaven immediately nor did I say some won't go to hell for a period of time, I just said no one will be condemned to hell forever. I do believe that we will all go with Jesus and only through Jesus. It will take the Holy Ghost longer on some nonbelievers. I will include a couple of verses though to appease you some.

It is written in Isaiah that "there will be a feast of rich food for all peoples because GOD will destroy the shroud that unfolds all peoples, all nations. GOD will wipe away the tears from all faces". Not just the believers, but all people, all nations.

When do we have to accept Jesus as our Saviour according to you? Luke 23 describes the man on the cross next to Jesus saying "remember me when you come into your kingdom" and he was with Jesus in Paradise that day. This was a man who was not a believer until his last hour. I say there are many converts in the very last second of their lives, which can be a million years in GOD's time. And, those remaining unbelievers, will be visited by the Holy Ghost, who knows where, maybe hell.

I am going to bed now.

[super_dave]

I am not even close to posting the book's cliff note version and I am not going to get into a scripture war here. I didn't say that all will go to heaven immediately nor did I say some won't go to hell for a period of time, I just said no one will be condemned to hell forever. I do believe that we will all go with Jesus and only through Jesus. It will take the Holy Ghost longer on some nonbelievers. I will include a couple of verses though to appease you some.

It is written in Isaiah that "there will be a feast of rich food for all peoples because GOD will destroy the shroud that unfolds all peoples, all nations. GOD will wipe away the tears from all faces". Not just the believers, but all people, all nations.

When do we have to accept Jesus as our Saviour according to you? Luke 23 describes the man on the cross next to Jesus saying "remember me when you come into your kingdom" and he was with Jesus in Paradise that day. This was a man who was not a believer until his last hour. I say there are many converts in the very last second of their lives, which can be a million years in GOD's time. And, those remaining unbelievers, will be visited by the Holy Ghost, who knows where, maybe hell.

I am going to bed now.

If this is true, then there would be no need for a savior. Jesus came to and died on the cross to pay the price for all who would accept it. Not all no matter what they do. Paul said “should we keep sinning knowing that grace abounds, absolutely not”.

Bottom line is those that do not accept the gift of forgiveness will spend eternity in the lake of fire (hell) separated from God the Father and His Son. This is the biblical stance. It’s not an opinion, it’s what is written. You have until the moment you die to accept hat gift just as the thief on the cross did. The other guy on the cross, won’t be there. It was his pride and arrogance that kept him from believing and even to this day the same pride and arrogance still keeps folks from calling on the name of Jesus and accepting his sacrifice on the cross.

The shroud that was torn away in Isaiah was the curtain between the people and the ark of the covenant. It was torn from top to bottom when Christ died. A symbol that now anyone can come to the Lord through the death of His Son. He gave everyone an out, but not everyone will accept it.


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[SabineHunter]

Superdave, we mostly agree, just the timing part is in disagreement. I would be happy to send you a copy of the book as well, I am already sending out one today. I just ask that you return it so I can continue to send it out to others unless you want it for reference. I do have 3 left.

[super_dave]

Superdave, we mostly agree, just the timing part is in disagreement. I would be happy to send you a copy of the book as well, I am already sending out one today. I just ask that you return it so I can continue to send it out to others unless you want it for reference. I do have 3 left.

No thank you.


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[CEO]

Uncle Si for Press Secretary.

[Danno]

Couple of questions and not trying to stir the pot. Just questions I have.

1. Why would God allow Satan the satisfaction of having souls of his children? Why not just flood the earth again and have their souls cease to exist? Seems like Satan wins here.

2. Are there scriptures talking about what happened to the souls of the original humans that died in the great flood or the humans killed at Sodom and Gomorrah?

[c3products20]

Couple of questions and not trying to stir the pot. Just questions I have.

1. Why would God allow Satan the satisfaction of having souls of his children? Why not just flood the earth again and have their souls cease to exist? Seems like Satan wins here.

2. Are there scriptures talking about what happened to the souls of the original humans that died in the great flood or the humans killed at Sodom and Gomorrah?

1 Peter 3:19

1Peter 4:6
Souls don't cease to exist. We are eternal creatures.

[c3products20]

Couple of questions and not trying to stir the pot. Just questions I have.

1. Why would God allow Satan the satisfaction of having souls of his children? Why not just flood the earth again and have their souls cease to exist? Seems like Satan wins here.

2. Are there scriptures talking about what happened to the souls of the original humans that died in the great flood or the humans killed at Sodom and Gomorrah?

One thing to remember is that we all have a choice. There has to be a choice or it wouldn't be love. If God made everyone believe in Him we wouldn't have free will. So all the people you say "God killed" had a choice, like you, to choose God or choose themself. They chose themself so they sealed their own fate. Think about it from a fathers standpoint. You have a bunch of kids who are your kids that love you and want to be with you but they are being tormented and persecuted. On the other hand you have some children that don't really love you and may be lost for eternity but you still want to do everything you can to save them...... See the dilemma? God doesn't want to lose one single child but He can't force them to believe in Him or love Him. He gave the greatest sacrifice to save as many of us as possible to be with Him for eternity...

[SabineHunter]

One thing to remember is that we all have a choice. There has to be a choice or it wouldn't be love. If God made everyone believe in Him we wouldn't have free will. So all the people you say "God killed" had a choice, like you, to choose God or choose themself. They chose themself so they sealed their own fate. Think about it from a fathers standpoint. You have a bunch of kids who are your kids that love you and want to be with you but they are being tormented and persecuted. On the other hand you have some children that don't really love you and may be lost for eternity but you still want to do everything you can to save them...... See the dilemma? God doesn't want to lose one single child but He can't force them to believe in Him or love Him. He gave the greatest sacrifice to save as many of us as possible to be with Him for eternity...

GOD never, ever gives up on us. We will all be with Him for eternity, it just might take some longer to get to the party.

[c3products20]

GOD never, ever gives up on us. We will all be with Him for eternity, it just might take some longer to get to the party.

There's only one issue I see with this theory you present and that is that "Time" doesn't exist in eternity. There's no gradual progression from one from to the next or any type of progression. The beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. Also, if your theory were true there wouldn't be a satan because he would of also been redeemed when Jesus was resurrected, which isn't the case.

[rolylane6]

Yes, everyone. Let me ask you this, is there anything your child can do that YOU would condemn them to hell forever?

No but I can't stop them from choosing to go there. God can't stop you either. He created you with free choice so you could chose him or not. Love is NOT forcing YOUR WILL on someone else.

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