The way forward on COVID - learn to live with it.

[Dale Moser]

I’m ignoring it.


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[WItoTX]

I hope so. It will gradually and eventually, but it will take a long time for some people to come to their senses (if they have any left).

M.C. and I spent a long weekend in the Hill Country last weekend. We hiked at Lost Maples and Garner. It was a beautiful weekend to be out. But I just had to shake my head in amazement at the folks who were out there hiking with masks on. Most people weren't wearing them, of course. But some wore them full time. Some had them on, but pulled down until they saw some other people coming. Then they'd quickly pull their masks up for the brief 2 seconds it takes for people to pass each other on a hiking trail.

I just can't even begin to understand the thought process that leads people to live like that. I truly feel sorry for them. It's gotta be miserable to be that afraid and paranoid. And I really hate it for the kids who are being trained to be that way.

Yup. It's sad to watch. Living on the West side of Houston, I see that same scenario every day. We go to Mary Joe Peckham park in Katy, and everyone has masks on.

I dont think there was an issue with the precautions early on - mainly due to this being a virus that we really had any clue on how to deal with, or what it could do.

This is literally the only thing I would agree with you on. If the Chi-Comms would have let us see their data, we could have had this **** sorted out before the Wuhan flu before March. By April we would have known we didn't need masks.

[LWC]

I hope so. It will gradually and eventually, but it will take a long time for some people to come to their senses (if they have any left).

M.C. and I spent a long weekend in the Hill Country last weekend. We hiked at Lost Maples and Garner. It was a beautiful weekend to be out. But I just had to shake my head in amazement at the folks who were out there hiking with masks on. Most people weren't wearing them, of course. But some wore them full time. Some had them on, but pulled down until they saw some other people coming. Then they'd quickly pull their masks up for the brief 2 seconds it takes for people to pass each other on a hiking trail.

I just can't even begin to understand the thought process that leads people to live like that. I truly feel sorry for them. It's gotta be miserable to be that afraid and paranoid. And I really hate it for the kids who are being trained to be that way.

The kids are what scares me the most. They don't really have a choice going to school. Seems like some high level conditioning from big brother.

Also like Slick said, 99% of folks I've seen at Sams, Walmart, Kroger etc... are still wearing masks. This is in "conservative" Texas. That does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about if something very serious was to happen and we needed to pull together.

[Artos]

This "Permanent Emergency" is a politically motivated manufactured crisis to instill fear. And everyone knows that it is much easier to control someone who is in a state of fear than someone who is not.

They've got the public policing each other...stories every day about folks jumping on someone about not wearing a mask & then everyone is all up in each other's faces swapping spittle arguing both verbally & physically??

I think masks will be continued to politicized for a while or at least until there is a vaccine widely distributed & then the false sense see purity sets in. I'm just wondering when the next cootie is going to show up.

[rtp]

Well that's a big duh! I know a lot of people should be eating crow about now but will never admit how overblown and overdone this "lockdown" and mask wearing mandate has been.

[Johnny44]

We are going to have to take a stand, wanna know why?

Last week the WHO posted the fatality rate worldwide is .013, that is 1300th of one percent.

They are trying to quietly change the figures at CDC, NIH, and WHO to gaslight.

So, the fatality rate sans fraud is less than the seasonal flu...its a fact jack!

[Rcole1310]

The way forward on COVID - learn to live with it.

If folks want to wear a mask, I couldn’t care less. Could walk around in a hazmat suit for all I care. I have to wear one so it’s a fact of life for me. I don’t when I don’t have to. I live how I want to and see no need to impose my will on others health choices. But it doesn’t anger me at all when I see people wearing one. We don’t know their circumstances. IMO a few things need to happen before this settles down 1) We need at least a moderately effective safe vaccine. 2) we need an effective treatment that we can take at home that works quickly. Like a tamiflu. 3) We need to quit hearing about it 24-7. Also a rapid test for home or doc office would really help. When people know if they get it, they can quickly diagnose, and quickly and consistently get the viral load down at home, things will get better. CoVID isn’t going anywhere for a few years, and there will be another virus (probably a corona virus, probably out of Asia) and the next one may actually be a monster. I hope to God we do better next time.


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[Rush2Judge]

We will be paying for this craziness for a long time. The damage being done is unforgivable.

[Johnny44]

According to the CDC and WHO there is no justification for any of this we have endured, even a lawyer would be unsuccessful in court based on the fatality rate. I think they are gaslighting to save them from lawsuits. This illness “does not qualify as a pandemic” according to the CDC literature. The updated survival rates and adjusted death numbers reflect the same. 94.6% survivability for 70+

[rtp]

Those of you following the policy debate surrounding this pandemic need to read "The Great Barrington Declaration" linked below. Written by two scientists/infectious disease experts from Harvard and one from Stanford, it calls for an end to destructive lockdowns, saying we must allow people to live normally while protecting the vulnerable. So far it has been signed by over 7,000 health scientists and medical practitioners. The data on the collateral damage caused by the government lockdowns is sad and staggering. The CDC estimates that there have been 93,814 non-Covid “excess deaths” this year, including 42,427 from cardiovascular conditions, 10,686 from diabetes and 3,646 from cancer.

Of course this declaration is getting no exposure in the mainstream press (I found the link in the Wall Street Journal) Covid has become so politicized that the calm reasoning of the Great Barrington scientists is drowned out by the fear and loathing of those who want to blame Donald Trump for every new infection.

It's a short, easy read - find it here:
https://gbdeclaration.org/

Jerp, when the CDC says excess deaths from cardiovascular, diabetes and cancer are they saying these folks would have been expected to survive had COVID not been around or are they saying this are the deaths with comorbidity and would have died regardless? Im a little confused on what the phrase excess deaths means.

[Johnny44]

Left wing policy kills more than Kung-Flu

[jerp]

Jerp, when the CDC says excess deaths from cardiovascular, diabetes and cancer are they saying these folks would have been expected to survive had COVID not been around or are they saying this are the deaths with comorbidity and would have died regardless? Im a little confused on what the phrase excess deaths means.

I have only a layman’s understanding but I think after many decades of data they have a good handle on how many die each calendar month from heart disease, cancer, untreated diabetes, etc. When there is a significant jump above that long term average for a given month they call those excess deaths. Apparently there has been a big spike above the average in deaths for those diseases among people who don’t have COVD. So yes, a good percentage of them would likely be alive if they had gotten treatment but did they couldnt or didn’t go to the doc during the lockdown/pandemic

[scotty]

I've been out in public since it started. I'm essentially essential at work. Route work. I handle the dirtiest thing there is, cash. I'll admit that for the first couple of weeks, I was concerned. Gloves, hand sanitizer by the gallon, you name it. But when millions didn't start dying, and the story kept changing, I did some research. It's all political. I decided to live my life without fear or change after that. Yes, I wear that bull**** mask where I have to, but I've travelled to states that weren't overly locked down, went to resorts, restaurants, and bars. Even went to a few weddings. If I happen to catch a bad case and die, the Karens can tell me I told you so. But I know where I'm going, and that's all that really matters, isn't it?

[Johnny44]

We lived with it just fine before the lockdowns

https://www.wsj.com/graphics/when-did-covid-hit-earliest-death/