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    #16
    Originally posted by webb09 View Post
    There a big difference between destroying property and going to church, operating businesses or not wearing a mask
    He’s talking about the tactics being employed not what they are being used against. The Germans may have been uncomfortable with the treatment of Jews, but they never thought those same tactics and forces would be used against them, until they were, and then it was too late

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      #17
      Originally posted by glen View Post
      Depends if your shoes are sandals or boots I guess

      Are flip-flops in the boot category of the sandal category?

      It’s fishing time and now I’m confused [emoji23][emoji23]


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        #18
        Yeah it’s totally okay for unidentified people in rental cars to detain American citizens with no oversight or recourse. /s

        Of course this should be investigated. Can’t believe you guys are okay with “secret police” out there detaining people without cause or identifying symbols.

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          #19
          Of course this should be investigated. Can’t believe you guys are okay with “secret police” out there detaining people without cause or identifying symbols.
          Considering the situation - I have ZERO PROBLEM with it. Urban Terrorism for 50 plus days with ZERO enforcement via the Local L/E & Mayor.

          HELL YEAH - TIME TO ROUND THEM UP - AUTONOMOUSLY. It's the only way to get close to them and it's the only way to protect the men & women in L/E, doing this crap work, AUTONOMOUSLY so these URBAN TERRORISTS can't counter target them via NAME & or ORGANIZATION.

          Lawlessness - you have no country without law and order. And the old play sheet of COP in UNIFORM - VISUAL by these URBAN TERRORISTS is now COVERT TACTICS - COVERT IDENTIFICATION & COVERT TAKEDOWNS.

          I applaud the tactical game changer - it's an advantage for LAW ENFORCEMENT and DISADVANTAGE to the MARXIST/SOCIALIST/URBAN TERRORISTS.

          To date, the normal crap has not worked.....game changer IMO.

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            #20
            Originally posted by AtTheWall View Post
            Considering the situation - I have ZERO PROBLEM with it. Urban Terrorism for 50 plus days with ZERO enforcement via the Local L/E & Mayor.

            HELL YEAH - TIME TO ROUND THEM UP - AUTONOMOUSLY. It's the only way to get close to them and it's the only way to protect the men & women in L/E, doing this crap work, AUTONOMOUSLY so these URBAN TERRORISTS can't counter target them via NAME & or ORGANIZATION.

            Lawlessness - you have no country without law and order. And the old play sheet of COP in UNIFORM - VISUAL by these URBAN TERRORISTS is now COVERT TACTICS - COVERT IDENTIFICATION & COVERT TAKEDOWNS.

            I applaud the tactical game changer - it's an advantage for LAW ENFORCEMENT and DISADVANTAGE to the MARXIST/SOCIALIST/URBAN TERRORISTS.

            To date, the normal crap has not worked.....game changer IMO.
            Well said

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              #21
              Originally posted by Riceguy View Post
              Yeah it’s totally okay for unidentified people in rental cars to detain American citizens with no oversight or recourse. /s

              Of course this should be investigated. Can’t believe you guys are okay with “secret police” out there detaining people without cause or identifying symbols.
              Why do you assume there is no oversight or recourse?

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                #22
                Originally posted by AtTheWall View Post
                Considering the situation - I have ZERO PROBLEM with it. Urban Terrorism for 50 plus days with ZERO enforcement via the Local L/E & Mayor.

                HELL YEAH - TIME TO ROUND THEM UP - AUTONOMOUSLY. It's the only way to get close to them and it's the only way to protect the men & women in L/E, doing this crap work, AUTONOMOUSLY so these URBAN TERRORISTS can't counter target them via NAME & or ORGANIZATION.

                Lawlessness - you have no country without law and order. And the old play sheet of COP in UNIFORM - VISUAL by these URBAN TERRORISTS is now COVERT TACTICS - COVERT IDENTIFICATION & COVERT TAKEDOWNS.

                I applaud the tactical game changer - it's an advantage for LAW ENFORCEMENT and DISADVANTAGE to the MARXIST/SOCIALIST/URBAN TERRORISTS.

                To date, the normal crap has not worked.....game changer IMO.
                I just see it differently. From my perspective an unmarked “police force“ is concerning. Agree that people should get themselves under control, but most of the arrests by these people I’ve seen involves “protestors” or regular folks outside and not being engaged in any destruction.

                It’s a bad precedent and slippery slope into dictatorship control in my opinion. In my view, law enforcement should be completely transparent about who they are, what they are doing, and why they are locking people up. If they aren’t, then you have similar situations to those in China and Russia where anyone who opposes the government gets “dealt with.”

                The fact this is occurring in a county with laws against openly carrying a loaded firearm is also concerning. This is why people need to be armed.

                Are you telling me you would willingly go with people in tacticool clothing that come out of a rental car without them presenting law enforcement identification? I know I wouldn’t and I doubt many of us here would.

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                  #23
                  The camels nose

                  Originally posted by Riceguy View Post
                  I just see it differently. From my perspective an unmarked “police force“ is concerning. Agree that people should get themselves under control, but most of the arrests by these people I’ve seen involves “protestors” or regular folks outside and not being engaged in any destruction.

                  It’s a bad precedent and slippery slope into dictatorship control in my opinion. In my view, law enforcement should be completely transparent about who they are, what they are doing, and why they are locking people up. If they aren’t, then you have similar situations to those in China and Russia where anyone who opposes the government gets “dealt with.”

                  The fact this is occurring in a county with laws against openly carrying a loaded firearm is also concerning. This is why people need to be armed.

                  Are you telling me you would willingly go with people in tacticool clothing that come out of a rental car without them presenting law enforcement identification? I know I wouldn’t and I doubt many of us here would.
                  “” The camel's nose is a metaphor for a situation where the permitting of a small, seemingly innocuous act will open the door for larger, clearly undesirable actions.””

                  The division of America?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Playa View Post
                    Not sure why they are unmarked but I suspect this has been exaggerated. They have a right to protect federal property if the local yokal won’t.
                    Because the BLM rioters are burning marked police cars. Edit:And in the video the police van is hit with a frozen bottle of ice thrown by a rioter.


                    And they also have the right to protect their federal officers and their families.









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                    Last edited by Thumper; 07-19-2020, 02:40 PM.

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                      #25
                      Hasn't antifa been designated a terrorist organization?

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                        #26
                        Maybe they should make an application to a FISA court for an arrest warrant.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Riceguy View Post
                          I just see it differently. From my perspective an unmarked “police force“ is concerning. Agree that people should get themselves under control, but most of the arrests by these people I’ve seen involves “protestors” or regular folks outside and not being engaged in any destruction.

                          It’s a bad precedent and slippery slope into dictatorship control in my opinion. In my view, law enforcement should be completely transparent about who they are, what they are doing, and why they are locking people up. If they aren’t, then you have similar situations to those in China and Russia where anyone who opposes the government gets “dealt with.”

                          The fact this is occurring in a county with laws against openly carrying a loaded firearm is also concerning. This is why people need to be armed.

                          Are you telling me you would willingly go with people in tacticool clothing that come out of a rental car without them presenting law enforcement identification? I know I wouldn’t and I doubt many of us here would.
                          Strange. Why don’t you show the footage of them arresting innocent protesters. I haven’t seen such footage, which is really strange considering if there is such footage, it would be all over the MSM.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by M16 View Post
                            Maybe they should make an application to a FISA court for an arrest warrant.
                            Not since Obama admin and congress abolished the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Riceguy View Post
                              I just see it differently. From my perspective an unmarked “police force“ is concerning. Agree that people should get themselves under control, but most of the arrests by these people I’ve seen involves “protestors” or regular folks outside and not being engaged in any destruction.

                              It’s a bad precedent and slippery slope into dictatorship control in my opinion. In my view, law enforcement should be completely transparent about who they are, what they are doing, and why they are locking people up. If they aren’t, then you have similar situations to those in China and Russia where anyone who opposes the government gets “dealt with.”

                              The fact this is occurring in a county with laws against openly carrying a loaded firearm is also concerning. This is why people need to be armed.

                              Are you telling me you would willingly go with people in tacticool clothing that come out of a rental car without them presenting law enforcement identification? I know I wouldn’t and I doubt many of us here would.
                              I'm with you in sentiment. I want the law applied correctly, not a reason to start using Gestapo tactics. Do the job right in the first place.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hooverfb View Post
                                I'm with you in sentiment. I want the law applied correctly, not a reason to start using Gestapo tactics. Do the job right in the first place.
                                Originally posted by Riceguy View Post
                                I just see it differently. From my perspective an unmarked “police force“ is concerning. Agree that people should get themselves under control, but most of the arrests by these people I’ve seen involves “protestors” or regular folks outside and not being engaged in any destruction.

                                It’s a bad precedent and slippery slope into dictatorship control in my opinion. In my view, law enforcement should be completely transparent about who they are, what they are doing, and why they are locking people up. If they aren’t, then you have similar situations to those in China and Russia where anyone who opposes the government gets “dealt with.”

                                The fact this is occurring in a county with laws against openly carrying a loaded firearm is also concerning. This is why people need to be armed.

                                Are you telling me you would willingly go with people in tacticool clothing that come out of a rental car without them presenting law enforcement identification? I know I wouldn’t and I doubt many of us here would.
                                Genuinely, curious, what bothers both of you about the arrest? Their uniforms, the unmarked van, or that they didn't stop and have a chat with the protesters, give them their names, business cards, and home address?

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