So where do conservatives go now?

[Ironman]

they were doing nothing illegal. planned parenthood was cleared of any wrong doing and in fact the people that did the filming have been charged. with felonies.

just wanted the facts out there...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ment/79318450/

Come on man! The fact that aborted fetus' are considered a by-product, that can be sold in order to make other products, is despicable. You don't have to be republican or a Christian or whatever lable people come up with. It just goes against pure human decency.

[PondPopper]

Just because something is legal doesn't make it morally right. Currently state of Texas lawmakers are working on bills that would make it illegal to sell aborted fetus parts. There are more laws in Texas about how to harvest whitetail deer and what to do with the remains than there are about unborn children, I think that might change in the near future though.

WHY isnt this already law?? We've had a republican as governor for a very long time.
This is what I'm talking about..

[Jason]

WHY isnt this already law?? We've had a republican as governor for a very long time.
This is what I'm talking about..

Great questions. Keep asking and keep asking loudly.

[Jason]

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but just found it and thought it pertinant to the discussion. It's from Ben Sasse, Senator from Nebraska. I found it thought provoking and thought maybe some of yall would do. I keep having that quote from Ben Franklin run through my mind the past few days, "A republic if you can keep it." Enjoy.

AN OPEN LETTER TO MAJORITY AMERICA
TO: Those who think both leading presidential candidates are dishonest and have little chance of leading America forward:
(…or, stated more simply)
TO: The majority of America:
Note: If you are one of those rare souls who genuinely believe Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are honorable people – if they are the role models you want for your kids – then this letter is not for you. Instead, this letter is for the majority of Americans who wonder why the nation that put a man on the moon can’t find a healthy leader who can take us forward together.
I want to tell you about four unsolicited conversations from the Fremont Wal-Mart this morning:
**Retired union Democrat meat-packer:
“What the heck is wrong with that city where you work? Why can’t they give us a normal person? Is it really so hard?”
Me: “Actually, it is for them – because most people in DC buy the nonsense that DC is the center of the world. You and I, despite our party differences, both agree that Fremont is the center.”
Union Democrat (interrupting): “…Because this is where my grandkids are.”
**Young evangelical mom:
“I want to cry. I disagree with Hillary Clinton on almost every single thing – but I will vote for her before Trump. I could never tell my kids later that I voted for that man.”
**Middle-aged Republican male (more political than the other folks):
“It feels like the train-car to hell is accelerating. Why is DC more filled with weirdos and yet more powerful at the same time? How do we slow this down long enough to have a conversation about actually fixing our country?”
**Trump supporter (again, unsolicited):
“Please understand: I’m going to vote for him, but I don’t like him. And I don’t trust him – I mean, I’m not stupid. But how else can I send a signal to Washington?!”
________
I’ve ignored my phone most of today, but the voicemail is overflowing with party bosses and politicos telling me that “although Trump is terrible,” we “have to” support him, “because the only choice is Trump or Hillary.”
This open letter aims simply to ask “WHY is that the only choice?”
Melissa and I got the kids launched on homework, so I’ve been sitting out by the river, reflecting on the great gap between what folks in my town are talking about, and what folks in the DC bubble are talking about.
I trust the judgment of this farm town way more than I trust DC. And so I’d like to share a dozen-ish observations on these Wal-Mart and other conversations today:
1.
Washington isn’t fooling anyone -- Neither political party works. They bicker like children about tiny things, and yet they can’t even identify the biggest issues we face. They’re like a couple arguing about what color to paint the living room, and meanwhile, their house is on fire. They resort to character attacks as step one because they think voters are too dumb for a real debate. They very often prioritize the agendas of lobbyists (for whom many of them will eventually work) over the urgent needs of Main Street America. I signed up for the Party of Abraham Lincoln -- and I will work to reform and restore the GOP -- but let’s tell the plain truth that right now both parties lack vision.
2.
As a result, normal Americans don’t like either party. If you ask Americans if they identify as Democrat or Republican, almost half of the nation interrupts to say: “Neither.”
3.
Young people despise the two parties even more than the general electorate. And why shouldn’t they? The main thing that unites most Democrats is being anti-Republican; the main thing that unites most Republicans is being anti-Democrat. No one knows what either party is for -- but almost everyone knows neither party has any solutions for our problems. “Unproductive” doesn’t begin to summarize how messed up this is.
4.
Our problems are huge right now, but one of the most obvious is that we’ve not passed along the meaning of America to the next generation. If we don’t get them to re-engage -- thinking about how we defend a free society in the face of global jihadis, or how we balance our budgets after baby boomers have dishonestly over-promised for decades, or how we protect First Amendment values in the face of the safe-space movement – then all will indeed have been lost. One of the bright spots with the rising generation, though, is that they really would like to rethink the often knee-jerk partisanship of their parents and grandparents. We should encourage this rethinking.
5.
These two national political parties are enough of a mess that I believe they will come apart. It might not happen fully in 2016 – and I’ll continue fighting to revive the GOP with ideas -- but when people’s needs aren’t being met, they ultimately find other solutions.
6.
In the history of polling, we’ve basically never had a candidate viewed negatively by half of the electorate. This year, we have two. In fact, we now have the two most unpopular candidates ever – Hillary by a little, and Trump by miles (including now 3 out of 4 women – who vote more and influence more votes than men). There are dumpster fires in my town more popular than these two “leaders.”
7.
With Clinton and Trump, the fix is in. Heads, they win; tails, you lose. Why are we confined to these two terrible options? This is America. If both choices stink, we reject them and go bigger. That’s what we do.
8.
Remember: our Founders didn’t want entrenched political parties. So why should we accept this terrible choice?
9.
So...let’s have a thought experiment for a few weeks: Why shouldn’t America draft an honest leader who will focus on 70% solutions for the next four years? You know...an adult?
(Two notes for reporters:
**Such a leader should be able to campaign 24/7 for the next six months. Therefore he/she likely can’t be an engaged parent with little kids.
**Although I’m one of the most conservative members of the Senate, I'm not interested in an ideological purity test, because even a genuine consensus candidate would almost certainly be more conservative than either of the two dishonest liberals now leading the two national parties.)
10.
Imagine if we had a candidate:
...who hadn’t spent his/her life in politics either buying politicians or being bought
…who didn’t want to stitch together a coalition based on anger but wanted to take a whole nation forward
…who pledged to serve for only one term, as a care-taker problem-solver for this messy moment
…who knew that Washington isn’t competent to micromanage the lives of free people, but instead wanted to SERVE by focusing on 3 or 4 big national problems,
such as:
A. A national security strategy for the age of cyber and jihad;
B. Honest budgeting/entitlement reform so that we stop stealing from future generations;
C. Empowering states and local governments to improve K-12 education, and letting Washington figure out how to update federal programs to adjust to now needing lifelong learners in an age where folks are obviously not going to work at a single job for a lifetime anymore; and
D. Retiring career politicians by ending all the incumbency protections, special rules, and revolving door opportunities for folks who should be public “servants,” not masters.
This really shouldn’t be that hard.
The oath I took is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. In brief, that means I’m for limited government.
And there is no reason to believe that either of these two national frontrunners believe in limiting anything about DC’s power.
I believe that most Americans can still be for limited government again -- if they were given a winsome candidate who wanted Washington to focus on a small number of really important, urgent things -- in a way that tried to bring people together instead of driving us apart.
I think there is room – an appetite – for such a candidate.
What am I missing?
More importantly, what are the people at the Fremont Wal-Mart missing?
Because I don’t think they are wrong. They deserve better. They deserve a Congress that tackles the biggest policy problems facing the nation. And they deserve a president who knows that his or her job is not to “reign,” but to serve as commander-in-chief and to “faithfully execute” the laws – not to claim imperial powers to rewrite them with his pen and phone.
The sun is mostly set on the Platte River -- and the kids need baths. So g’night.
Ben
#WeCanDoBetter
#GiveUsMoreChoices

[Tommyh]

WHY isnt this already law?? We've had a republican as governor for a very long time.
This is what I'm talking about..

did you know that PP was selling fetuses before the reports were unfolded in the MSM? since the legislature was caught just as offguard as the public, how could they have written bills to stop it?

[John Galt]

I wish the Constitution Party would gain some ground. It appears to have the same conservative platform as the libertarian party without the divisiveness of the social issues. Regarding social the social issues, I believe they should be left to the states to decide (as they have been historically). As much as I dislike abortion, I don't believe it is an issue for the federal government. Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and then it can be battled in the legislatures of each state.

I had never heard of the Constitution Party before your post. I'm finding it pretty interesting. Better fit for me than the Libertarian Party it would appear.

[Joshua Flournoy]

I really tried reading your article, but couldn't even get past this part... That whole sentece is full of chicken little nonsense that I couldn't even go on. Mainly the first and last part. Isn't the tactic of calling everyone with a different opinion racist straight out of the liberal playbook?

Not if it's true.

Speaking as someone who is very political and spends a bit of time every day on twitter reading news links and other political stuff...there are a LOT of Trump supporters who are blatant racists. And when I say a LOT....that is probably an understatement. And it's not just against Blacks, either. A lot of Jew hating racist Trump supporters also. Lot of overlap between those groups, too. See people like David Duke. White supremacist groups love Trump. LOVE him.

There are exactly 2 reasons Trump won the South big: Racial Grievance, and Economic Grievance. He tapped into the sentiments of both groups with his rhetoric. Notice I said rhetoric. Not that he actually believes what he was campaigning on. There is a LOT of latent (and plenty not so latent) racism still in the South. I don't doubt that there are people on this site who hold some of those sentiments.

And while I live in Ohio now, I grew up in the deep east Texas Pineywoods, western edge of the Deep South. Lived there for 25 years. I saw and heard some ugly, racist stuff there growing up, even from people I'd otherwise consider "respectable".

I believe there are a lot of people in the South why fly the Confederate Flag because it stands for the battle over States rights and the fight against the Tyranny of Lincoln's Federal Government. But I think there are also a lot of racist people who fly the Confederate Flag because of all the....wrong reasons.

[Balcones_Walker]

Just to echo what others have said, as long as you're willing to live and let live on social issues (as you mention you are), you sound like a classic Libertarian.

[texansfan]

Why didn't the Tea Party take off and become a viable 3rd party for Constitutionalists?