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    #31
    I left the party 8 years ago. I even regret voting for some of the R candidates prior to that.

    The party has been in trouble for many years. The current situation cannot be blamed on Trump. It started way before he came along.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ladrones View Post
      I left the party 8 years ago. I even regret voting for some of the R candidates prior to that.

      The party has been in trouble for many years. The current situation cannot be blamed on Trump. It started way before he came along.
      I agree. this makes three elections in a row lost because of the inept or down right crooked GOP establishment. Trump DID expose them just like Hillary planned.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Shane View Post
        There is no reason, other than wishing and hoping, to believe that Trump would appoint justices that would be any better than the ones Hillary would appoint. He doesn't have or value any constitutional or conservative principles. If he is elected, the Democrats will gain control of Congress. He'll be happy to deal with them on everything, including Supreme Court appointments. At least with Hillary, the Republicans stand a better chance of maintaining control of Congress and we'd have a little better chance at fighting off some of her mess - not that the spineless Republicans would fight, but at least there would be that possibility.

        It truly doesn't matter which one of them wins. The battle for the Supreme Court was lost last night when Cruz dropped out.
        Strange that people talk about the supreme court and support Trump in the same sentence.

        Who would have been better to appoint SCJ's than Cruz.

        Hopefully Trump will put Cruz on the Supreme court, his intellect would be very valuable there.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Shane View Post
          There is no reason, other than wishing and hoping, to believe that Trump would appoint justices that would be any better than the ones Hillary would appoint. He doesn't have or value any constitutional or conservative principles. If he is elected, the Democrats will gain control of Congress. He'll be happy to deal with them on everything, including Supreme Court appointments. At least with Hillary, the Republicans stand a better chance of maintaining control of Congress and we'd have a little better chance at fighting off some of her mess - not that the spineless Republicans would fight, but at least there would be that possibility.

          It truly doesn't matter which one of them wins. The battle for the Supreme Court was lost last night when Cruz dropped out.
          Maybe, but I still think odds are better with Trump, and having Republican control thru the first midterm. The first vacant seat will be appointed quickly, then my guess Kennedy will decide based on that appointment. Ginsburg is 83, so time is not on her side..... But I get what you are saying.

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            #35
            Originally posted by flatlander View Post
            Hopefully Trump will put Cruz on the Supreme court, his intellect would be very valuable there.
            I bet he has thought about that, thus the "he's a super smart guy" in his speech last night.

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              #36
              Afraid we have completely lost out at very crucial time.

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                #37
                Cruz would be much better in the supreme court than as a president.
                I also find it hilarious that so many of you made fun of Trump for saying the GOP was rigged. And, that he knew the rules when he signed up to run. He was just jealous because Cruz was better at using the rules to his advantage.

                Now that Cruz is out.... It is back to being rigged

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bayouboy View Post
                  Cruz would be much better in the supreme court than as a president.
                  I also find it hilarious that so many of you made fun of Trump for saying the GOP was rigged. And, that he knew the rules when he signed up to run. He was just jealous because Cruz was better at using the rules to his advantage.

                  Now that Cruz is out.... It is back to being rigged
                  Nobody is saying it's rigged. The Republican Party is destroyed. Too many groups that disagree with each other....big government establishment types, populists that want their big government guy, and conservatives who want smaller government. None of us are happy about that, but it's the reality. There are too many irreconcilable differences between the three groups.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ladrones View Post
                    I left the party 8 years ago. I even regret voting for some of the R candidates prior to that.

                    The party has been in trouble for many years. The current situation cannot be blamed on Trump. It started way before he came along.
                    This. I remember Bush senior speaking of a one world currency..
                    Last edited by PondPopper; 05-04-2016, 04:25 PM.

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                      #40
                      Check out the Al Mohler "The Briefing" podcast from today. It was a very thought provoking political commentary.

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                        #41
                        I'm so sad I cut out pics of Hillary n Obama. packed 3 AR's and a thousand rounds of ammo. Gonna tape the pics to my gong targets and see if a smile can come back.

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                          #42
                          jerp, here's a good article for you.......

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                            #43
                            Thanks Shane, I had not seen that. Gotta love David French - Harvard trained lawyer, Iraq war veteran, evangelical Christian. We need more clear thinkers like him

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Shane View Post
                              jerp, here's a good article for you.......

                              http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...must-react-how


                              A minority of its primary voters have torched its founders’ legacy by voting for a man who combines old-school Democratic ideology, a bizarre form of hyper-violent isolationism, fringe conspiracy theories, and serial lies with an enthusiastic flock of online racists
                              I really tried reading your article, but couldn't even get past this part... That whole sentece is full of chicken little nonsense that I couldn't even go on. Mainly the first and last part. Isn't the tactic of calling everyone with a different opinion racist straight out of the liberal playbook?

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                                #45
                                So where do conservatives go now?

                                Originally posted by Shane View Post
                                I'm not ready to give up the fight on abortion. Also, more and more young people are opposed to it now as well. As sonogram and other technology continues to advance, it is becoming more and more difficult for the pro-abortion crowd to sweep reality under the rug and hide it. I am convinced that is a winable fight - and continuing the fight is the right thing to do anyway, IMO.



                                As the Republican Party drifts further and further away from the Constitution, it's becoming clearer and clearer that they are leaving us. We can either follow them to the left or let them go. It really is the party leaving me more than me leaving the party - kinda like Reagan and the Democrat Party 50 years ago.


                                Shane, I respect and agree with your opinion, and more specifically on the Abortion front I would like to discuss.

                                I have told you previously my dismay with abortion.

                                Here is the deal.... If Cruz would have been able to get there, what specifically could he done to prevent the legalization of abortion? Even if trump says he wants to solely stop abortion, could either of them strike a pen and it happen?

                                I know Cruz says send it to the states, and I agree... But would this, could this really come to fruition?

                                Would it get hung up in legislation and become a stalemate because the Dems think its okay, and the repubs don't want to commit political suicide... I guess what I'm saying is I morally know it's wrong, but politically, it is a forgone conclusion to think that state or dc government will ever touch this subject again, without some heavy moral overturn in dc... We all can agree, that won't happen soon if ever.

                                If Cruz could have struck a pen and sent it to the states.... How long to implement and are the states going to accept it? Who truly knows anymore!

                                While it is a strong moral issue for many folks, how can we hang our hat on one piece and move anywhere?

                                And then those peaceful protest that will certainly come with it... I'm all for banging those guys heads.

                                I'm not asking you to forget your moral beliefs, just discuss how we could change the situation within a 4 yr presidency.

                                I'm just not convinced this issue would move anywhere based on a single person.
                                Last edited by JGreen31; 05-04-2016, 08:38 PM.

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