Brussels

[Mike Javi Cooper]

We have behavioral analysis agents here in the US, used to do that for a living. If you have ever had a conversation with a stranger in the airport in the security line or the food court or at the gate and even on the plane there is a good chance it could have been one of them. They don't break cover unless an action is to be taken.

Kind of the THOUGHT police... HUH

[texansfan]

As more details come out this is even MORE possible on US soil

[Playa]

As more details come out this is even MORE possible on US soil

It's only a matter of time before this happens at a major us airport, or subway.. Or both.

Truth is, it has already happened, it was just a sporting event, not a travel terminal

[texansfan]

It's only a matter of time before this happens at a major us airport, or subway.. Or both.

Truth is, it has already happened, it was just a sporting event, not a travel terminal

It's already happened.
Tim McVeigh.
OKC

[Ætheling]

It's already happened.
Tim McVeigh.
OKC

It already happened before that. The USS Maine.

[Let's go Brandon!]

It already happened before that. The USS Maine.

And the Weather Underground(Bill Ayers), Black Panther Party.

[TimH]

How feasible is it that terrorists here now can get their hands on the kind of materials needed to make a powerful enough explosive to cause significant damage in heavily populated areas?

I'm wondering why we have not seen these types of explosions here on a regular basis if it's that easy to pull off. No doubt the nut jobs are here ready to go.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Many Americans just do not understand that much of this is of their own making. No not the radical Islamic terrorist, but certainly to environment that allows it to fester in the U.S....

[texansfan]

How feasible is it that terrorists here now can get their hands on the kind of materials needed to make a powerful enough explosive to cause significant damage in heavily populated areas?

I'm wondering why we have not seen these types of explosions here on a regular basis if it's that easy to pull off. No doubt the nut jobs are here ready to go.

Easy.
These guys had HUGE suitcases filled with explosive.
Imagine what three suitcases each filled with 70lbs of tannerite could do.

Or some other type of readily available explosive such as a "fertilizer" bomb.

They have enough of them as grad student chemists in the USA that they can get a handful of really bad stuff from each person to make a VERY dangerous ordinance and it wouldn't even go detected

load up a suitcase like they are going home for the weekend, catch the metro to Union Station (DC) or SEPTA to 30th street station (Philly) and no one besides them will ever have to touch their heavy roller bags.
That can do A LOT of damage in the northeast during Thanksgiving



We have only seen it with far right wing Christians thus far

[Ætheling]

How feasible is it that terrorists here now can get their hands on the kind of materials needed to make a powerful enough explosive to cause significant damage in heavily populated areas?

I'm wondering why we have not seen these types of explosions here on a regular basis if it's that easy to pull off. No doubt the nut jobs are here ready to go.

As our Commandant told us when graduating from the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, "because they have chosen not to".

If you are a Muslim terrorist and kill a bunch of Europeans not much is going to happen to the homeland in retaliation. America has a bad habit of moving in for 12 years or so and murdering your friends and family and blowing up your village and town.

[Ætheling]

We have only seen it with far right wing Christians thus far

Have only seen what?

[texansfan]

Have only seen what?

Them building bombs powerful enough to demolish half of a 30 storey federal building harming innocent Americans.

Kinda like what happened in Belgium

I almost forgot about weather underground and Philly Police Dept


Also, tannerite is about $10 a pound retail so it would cost about $1,000 to build a really nasty suitcase bomb
They had three of them

[Ætheling]

Them building bombs powerful enough to demolish half of a 30 storey federal building harming innocent Americans.

Kinda like what happened in Belgium

I almost forgot about weather underground and Philly Police Dept


Also, tannerite is about $10 a pound retail so it would cost about $1,000 to build a really nasty suitcase bomb
They had three of them

Never heard of the millennium bomber?

CBP caught him coming across the border with the goods.


Another Customs inspector searched the car and found in the spare tire well:
10 green plastic garbage bags with 118 pounds (54 kg) of a fine white powder (which tests later identified as urea, used to manufacture explosives and fertilizer),
2 lozenge bottles filled with primary explosives hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD) and cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX),
2 plastic bags with 14 pounds (6.4 kg) of a crystalline powder (later shown to be aluminium sulfate, used primarily as a desiccant, to keep things dry),
two 22-ounce olive jars with 2.6 pounds (1.2 kg) of golden-brown liquid (later identified as secondary explosive ethylene glycol dinitrate (EGDN), an extremely explosive and volatile nitroglycerin equivalent that is twice as powerful as TNT), and
4 operational timing devices designed to detonate primary explosives, consisting of small black boxes containing circuit boards connected to Casio watches and 9-volt battery connectors

Here are 30 more since 9/11

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/04/30-terrorist-plots-foiled-how-the-system-worked

We have just stopped most of them, the intent was there so do they not count?

All Muslims

[Tommyh]

Never heard of the millennium bomber?

CBP caught him coming across the border with the goods.


Another Customs inspector searched the car and found in the spare tire well:
10 green plastic garbage bags with 118 pounds (54 kg) of a fine white powder (which tests later identified as urea, used to manufacture explosives and fertilizer),
2 lozenge bottles filled with primary explosives hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD) and cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX),
2 plastic bags with 14 pounds (6.4 kg) of a crystalline powder (later shown to be aluminium sulfate, used primarily as a desiccant, to keep things dry),
two 22-ounce olive jars with 2.6 pounds (1.2 kg) of golden-brown liquid (later identified as secondary explosive ethylene glycol dinitrate (EGDN), an extremely explosive and volatile nitroglycerin equivalent that is twice as powerful as TNT), and
4 operational timing devices designed to detonate primary explosives, consisting of small black boxes containing circuit boards connected to Casio watches and 9-volt battery connectors

Here are 30 more since 9/11

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/04/30-terrorist-plots-foiled-how-the-system-worked

We have just stopped most of them, the intent was there so do they not count?

All Muslims

not sure how many are converts from christian religions or muslim US citizens in this list.

[texansfan]

We have just stopped most of them, the intent was there so do they not count?

All Muslims

How many people had Texas executed for conspiracy to commit murder or for attempted murder?