Polls showing that Trump wins nomination, gets smashed in General election

[Ham Slammer]

It will be interesting if he does indeed get nomination if he makes a hard turn to the middle and abandons a lot of the things that he's been saying that riles up his supporters. The irony of him is that in my opinion he would probably be a pretty moderate president, which I'm okay with, I just can't condone how he's conducted his campaign. It's just flat out too ugly for me to accept. I don't like Clinton, and won't vote for her either, but I won't justify the way Trump has appealed to his constituents with my vote.

I'll agree with you there. I'm not a huge fan of the way he's attacked the entire Republican field, but I guess that's just politics nowadays... The rest of the candidates did their share of attacking as well, though definitely not as bad. But most of the big discussions and stances in this election were first talked about by Trump and the rest picked up on those issues afterward. That's why I think he really does stand for those issues despite his past alignment with the left. I believe what he did in the past was just business. The real question is whether or not he'll be willing to lose some of his own fortune due to his plans.

[BigL]

Are the polls factoring in the Republicans who are throwing their name out there as an independent candidate taking some of the R votes from Trump? I think all an independent candidate will do is guarantee Hillary wins the general election.

[Gunnyart]

Saw George Will say on Fox News Sunday this morning he would vote third party over Trump.

[Tommyh]

I doubt these "polls" even account for the historic (increase in R)(decrease in D) turnout we've seen this cycle.

Doesnt it seem odd here that record turnouts across the country are occurring for the reps when the dems have drastically diminished?

[ttechdallas]

I think polls now are meaningless. The 2016 election may come down to who is going to work for you, i.e., the people. Not just the left. Not just the right. Not for the rich.

Trump is rich - but he can point to how much he has lost and how much the rich have have spent to keep him from getting elected. Whereas Hillary has become filthy rich with the help of the richest companies in America. Then there is the Clinton Foundation hundreds of millions of dollars in donations while she was Sec State.

I think the final poll will favor Trump if that is who matches up against HRC.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Trump is an open book, in fact he wrote it. There are no skeletons in the closet because he laid the bodies out for display. Every deal, every affair, it's all out there. He did it publicly.

If it comes down to him and Hillary, he will destroy her. Nothing will be off limits, nothing.

[Playa]

This Pole has a fish.

No it doesn't, it's just hung on my old boot and the boat is drifting!


Here, this is affirmative, this pole has a dancer!

[Snacks]

Trump is an open book, in fact he wrote it. There are no skeletons in the closet because he laid the bodies out for display. Every deal, every affair, it's all out there. He did it publicly.

If it comes down to him and Hillary, he will destroy her. Nothing will be off limits, nothing.

Surely you don't truly believe that.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Surely you don't truly believe that.

Surely do, I've been following him since the 70's and he has been under a microscope of his own making.

[Jacobchaney523]

Reagan was almost 15 pts down on jimmy carter in March 1980. Just some interesting historical perspective on polls.

[Joshua Flournoy]

I doubt these "polls" even account for the historic (increase in R)(decrease in D) turnout we've seen this cycle.

It's not so much of an increase in R turnout for Trump as an increase in D's voting for Trump in Open voting states. Some are voting *for* Trump, but I can't tell you how many notes I've seen of Dems who are strategically voting for Trump so he'll be the nominee and get wiped out by the Dem.

Trump's biggest problem is how many Republicans would stay home in November rather than vote for him. A poll 2 days ago of Utah in the General Election showed both Hillary AND Bernie beating Trump there. In Utah....the most Republican state in the Union. The last time Utah voted Democrat in the General Election was 1964. When Trump supporters have said he'll put new states in play if he's the nominee, somehow I doubt that's what they had in mind.

[Joshua Flournoy]

I'll agree with you there. I'm not a huge fan of the way he's attacked the entire Republican field, but I guess that's just politics nowadays... The rest of the candidates did their share of attacking as well, though definitely not as bad. But most of the big discussions and stances in this election were first talked about by Trump and the rest picked up on those issues afterward. That's why I think he really does stand for those issues despite his past alignment with the left. I believe what he did in the past was just business. The real question is whether or not he'll be willing to lose some of his own fortune due to his plans.

Nonsense. Cruz campaigned for the Texas Senate seat in 2012 on building a border Wall, Trump's "signature" issue.

[Joshua Flournoy]

Doesnt it seem odd here that record turnouts across the country are occurring for the reps when the dems have drastically diminished?

It does, until you realize that's the case because a lot of Dems are crossing over to vote for Trump in Open voting states, which naturally shows an increase in R turnout. In Closed states, where only Republicans can vote, Cruz has beaten Trump by an avg. of 35% to 31%. If Trump is the nominee, he will get some Dem votes, but you've never seen the numbers of GOP voters who will stay home like if he is the nominee.

Trump seems like a real unprecedented juggernaut....until you find out that Hillary has gotten 1.3 million more votes in the D primary race than Trump has gotten in the R primary race (even with all the D's crossing over to vote for him). And that's with him getting way more free media time than Hillary, and more free media time than all the rest of the Republican candidates combined.

[Joshua Flournoy]

Trump is an open book, in fact he wrote it. There are no skeletons in the closet because he laid the bodies out for display. Every deal, every affair, it's all out there. He did it publicly.

If it comes down to him and Hillary, he will destroy her. Nothing will be off limits, nothing.

That is laughable. Not only is it not true, but if you think that the average GOP voter - much less the average Dem voter - knows about all of Trump's skeletons, whether public or not, can you please pass me some of what you're drinking? The main line of attack against Trump to date has been on his lack of Conservative bona fides. He has barely been touched on issues of character, dealings with Mafia, drug dealers, and fraudsters. That will all come down on him like a ton of bricks if he's the nominee. And if you think the media will give him equal time to attack Hillary on her issues, you're very naive.

[SolocamShooter]

It does, until you realize that's the case because a lot of Dems are crossing over to vote for Trump in Open voting states, which naturally shows an increase in R turnout. In Closed states, where only Republicans can vote, Cruz has beaten Trump by an avg. of 35% to 31%. If Trump is the nominee, he will get some Dem votes, but you've never seen the numbers of GOP voters who will stay home like if he is the nominee.

Trump seems like a real unprecedented juggernaut....until you find out that Hillary has gotten 1.3 million more votes in the D primary race than Trump has gotten in the R primary race (even with all the D's crossing over to vote for him). And that's with him getting way more free media time than Hillary, and more free media time than all the rest of the Republican candidates combined.

Yep but get ready! The trump crew will be along shortly Ragin' and raising hell about how silly and dumb you are for believing and stating the actual facts