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    Trump is doing to the MSM what they are trying to do to him and every other conservative only in a much simpler way. So simple in fact that liberals can't even comprehend what he's doing. He has played them like a fine violin.

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      Originally posted by batmaninja View Post
      If you are going to Trump for being loose with facts, why not every one else that does the exact same thing? The left, the media, basically anybody anti Trump.

      Curious to see what your answer to your question about who owns the media that torpedoes Trump? I think we both can agree, they really didnt ratchet up the personal Trump attacks, until he was POTUS.

      No one else could have exposed the swamp the way the Donald has.

      First of all, I'm not going to restate everything I said in prior posts acknowledging the dishonest media and their liberal bias. But as I have also stated, one side being wrong or bad doesn't make our side good nor should it lower our bar for those represent our political views. They can both suck at the same time.

      As for who owns the media - it is a who's who list of the wealthiest conglomerates and most powerful individuals in this country. Curiously enough, even the WSJ (Murdoch/Fox) has been critical of Trump. Point is they could all tamp down the anti-Trump rhetoric and propaganda. This goes deeper than thus liberal media bias.

      And it didn't start after he was elected. They started going after him before he made his candidacy official. That included labeling him a racist and the distortion of whatever he said to make him look racist - hark back to "those illegally crossing our southern border today...….murders, rapist....." and the media portraying him as saying that about all immigrants or even all Mexicans.

      As for the swamp, let's get real. Look at the people he surrounded himself and appointed to cabinet positions. He no more exposed the swamp much less cleaned it out. Heck, he got out there and wallowed in it with the rest of them.

      If you want to glorify the man and ignore how slimy he is on the basis of he's better than the alternative, that is your right. But for me, just because I have to vote for the lesser of two evils doesn't mean the acceptable standard for fulfilling the role is "at least he isn't Hillary or a liberal".

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        Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
        Trump is doing to the MSM what they are trying to do to him and every other conservative only in a much simpler way. So simple in fact that liberals can't even comprehend what he's doing. He has played them like a fine violin.
        And they are both laughing.....all the way to the bank

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          Originally posted by ttechdallas View Post
          As for who owns the media - it is a who's who list of the wealthiest conglomerates and most powerful individuals in this country. Curiously enough, even the WSJ (Murdoch/Fox) has been critical of Trump. Point is they could all tamp down the anti-Trump rhetoric and propaganda. This goes deeper than thus liberal media bias.
          100% agree with the underlined.

          And they all want Trump out. Delved so low they talk about PP dossiers, P stars, racism, collusion, etc. I try to step back and ask why?

          There is a coup to take Trump out. It started before he was even elected. He has exposed that Washington does not like outsiders. And the lengths they will go to take one out.

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            Originally posted by batmaninja View Post
            100% agree with the underlined.

            And they all want Trump out. Delved so low they talk about PP dossiers, P stars, racism, collusion, etc. I try to step back and ask why?

            There is a coup to take Trump out. It started before he was even elected. He has exposed that Washington does not like outsiders. And the lengths they will go to take one out.
            There you have it. Trump's behavior and rhetoric, his hypocrisy and dishonesty, and ongoing insensitivity to matters of race, sexism, etc., is a daily gift to those trying to undermine him. What would otherwise be obvious to most people about the corruption of our government, especially the groundwork laid by the Obama administration, is getting lost because he is so freakin' divisive. That is why his questionable behavior, attacks on everyone, his inconsistent stances on so many fronts including foreign affairs are so disastrous. His lunacy is blowing any opportunity we have to break the grip of big business and big money on the country.

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              Remove Trump from your equation..
              Exactly and specifically what "opportunities " are you talking about.
              List them..

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                Originally posted by ttechdallas View Post
                is getting lost because he is so freakin' divisive.
                Before he was the POTUS he was on reality TV, made his fortune through hotels, casinos, golf courses, beauty pageants and essentially his brand. None of that could have happened possibly ever happened if he is, so freakin divisive.

                Originally posted by ttechdallas View Post
                What would otherwise be obvious to most people about the corruption of our government, especially the groundwork laid by the Obama administration,
                If the 2 year Russian nonsense is a proven hoax, people should be put in jail for treason. Clintons bathroom server should have put her in jail. Debbie and Donna should also be in jail for what they did to the DNC. The divide in America started before Trump, we are just feeling the effects of what the swamp put into motion a while ago.

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                  Originally posted by ttechdallas View Post
                  There you have it. Trump's behavior and rhetoric, his hypocrisy and dishonesty, and ongoing insensitivity to matters of race, sexism, etc., is a daily gift to those trying to undermine him. What would otherwise be obvious to most people about the corruption of our government, especially the groundwork laid by the Obama administration, is getting lost because he is so freakin' divisive. That is why his questionable behavior, attacks on everyone, his inconsistent stances on so many fronts including foreign affairs are so disastrous. His lunacy is blowing any opportunity we have to break the grip of big business and big money on the country.

                  Can you elaborate and site specific examples on the bold?

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                    Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                    Remove Trump from your equation..
                    Exactly and specifically what "opportunities " are you talking about.
                    List them..
                    Easy. All that rhetoric, the childish behavior, stupid comments, the insensitivity he shows on so many social issues, etc., is a gift to the liberal media to fuel the anti-Trump hysteria and fears they peddle. It helps justify even to a lot of independents and some moderate Republicans that the Russia investigation and undue scrutiny of all his actions are warranted. In the absence of his daily attacks by the left media and the defense of those by the right media, it is almost impossible to expose the corruption of our government and the weaponization of the various government agencies. Here are just a couple of opportunities lost that would have united people on both sides about actions of our government:

                    - Using government agencies to eavesdrop on oppositional presidential campaigns during an election

                    - Raiding of attorney's office and use of client confidential information not relevant to an investigation to go after other criminal activities

                    -illegal leaking of confidential government information to undermine a sitting president

                    There are a host more and instead of recognizing the danger of all of these to our politics and government, regardless the party in charge, he is giving them fuel to justify what is happening. Even I wonder about his various positions and comments on Russia and why he is so reluctant to criticize them/Putin when he has no problem bashing other potential enemies as well as allies.

                    Before you suggest that Dems would have ignored anyway, look at how easily many of us on the right have been programmed to think Trump is actually a conservative much less a champion of conservative Christian values. He is closer to being a moderate Democrat than he is a conservative, yet there are people lamenting throughout these posts how he has exposed fake conservatives, blaming RINO's, etc. He's just playing to those who worship him the most.

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                      "Remove Trump from your equation.."
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                        Originally posted by systemnt View Post
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                        If only we could.


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                          Originally posted by ttechdallas View Post
                          Easy. All that rhetoric, the childish behavior, stupid comments, the insensitivity he shows on so many social issues, etc., is a gift to the liberal media to fuel the anti-Trump hysteria and fears they peddle.
                          So said another way, you are OK with the illegal activities of the left. Because you think that Donald is a meany head.

                          The liberal media helped elect Trump the first go round. And they are probably going to do it again.

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                            The only things in this world to keep me from voting Trump again is my death and Trump himself. So far he hasn't even come close to doing anything that would in any way change my mind. They may impeach him but that don't mean he's guilty of anything other than being a target for the liberal's hate as it stands right now. I pray the he will last at least until he gets done picking judges and especially another SCOTUS. So far he has been hitting homers in that field.

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                              The opposition party
                              just voted to legalize illegal alien voting

                              are pushing for open borders and full on socialism

                              openly call Trump supporters racist and Nazis on mainstream media daily

                              fight policies put in place by their lord and savior President Obama just because Trump is in control of them now

                              had government agents falsify information in order to start an investigation into an elected President

                              and heck, can't even agree to not hate Jewish people.

                              They aren't even pretending any more, there is no middle ground with them to meet at.



                              Yet, somehow Trump is the one dividing the country.

                              The mental gymnastics some of you are capable of are truly mind blowing. It's actually impressive.

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                                Ohhhh, multiple members of the DNC colluded to screw Bernie out of a fair and free election.

                                And yet they still couldnt manage to beat such an inferior candidate

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