Trump is doing to the MSM what they are trying to do to him and every other conservative only in a much simpler way. So simple in fact that liberals can't even comprehend what he's doing. He has played them like a fine violin.
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Originally posted by batmaninja View PostIf you are going to Trump for being loose with facts, why not every one else that does the exact same thing? The left, the media, basically anybody anti Trump.
Curious to see what your answer to your question about who owns the media that torpedoes Trump? I think we both can agree, they really didnt ratchet up the personal Trump attacks, until he was POTUS.
No one else could have exposed the swamp the way the Donald has.
First of all, I'm not going to restate everything I said in prior posts acknowledging the dishonest media and their liberal bias. But as I have also stated, one side being wrong or bad doesn't make our side good nor should it lower our bar for those represent our political views. They can both suck at the same time.
As for who owns the media - it is a who's who list of the wealthiest conglomerates and most powerful individuals in this country. Curiously enough, even the WSJ (Murdoch/Fox) has been critical of Trump. Point is they could all tamp down the anti-Trump rhetoric and propaganda. This goes deeper than thus liberal media bias.
And it didn't start after he was elected. They started going after him before he made his candidacy official. That included labeling him a racist and the distortion of whatever he said to make him look racist - hark back to "those illegally crossing our southern border today...….murders, rapist....." and the media portraying him as saying that about all immigrants or even all Mexicans.
As for the swamp, let's get real. Look at the people he surrounded himself and appointed to cabinet positions. He no more exposed the swamp much less cleaned it out. Heck, he got out there and wallowed in it with the rest of them.
If you want to glorify the man and ignore how slimy he is on the basis of he's better than the alternative, that is your right. But for me, just because I have to vote for the lesser of two evils doesn't mean the acceptable standard for fulfilling the role is "at least he isn't Hillary or a liberal".
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Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostTrump is doing to the MSM what they are trying to do to him and every other conservative only in a much simpler way. So simple in fact that liberals can't even comprehend what he's doing. He has played them like a fine violin.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostAs for who owns the media - it is a who's who list of the wealthiest conglomerates and most powerful individuals in this country. Curiously enough, even the WSJ (Murdoch/Fox) has been critical of Trump. Point is they could all tamp down the anti-Trump rhetoric and propaganda. This goes deeper than thus liberal media bias.
And they all want Trump out. Delved so low they talk about PP dossiers, P stars, racism, collusion, etc. I try to step back and ask why?
There is a coup to take Trump out. It started before he was even elected. He has exposed that Washington does not like outsiders. And the lengths they will go to take one out.
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Originally posted by batmaninja View Post100% agree with the underlined.
And they all want Trump out. Delved so low they talk about PP dossiers, P stars, racism, collusion, etc. I try to step back and ask why?
There is a coup to take Trump out. It started before he was even elected. He has exposed that Washington does not like outsiders. And the lengths they will go to take one out.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View Postis getting lost because he is so freakin' divisive.
Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostWhat would otherwise be obvious to most people about the corruption of our government, especially the groundwork laid by the Obama administration,
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostThere you have it. Trump's behavior and rhetoric, his hypocrisy and dishonesty, and ongoing insensitivity to matters of race, sexism, etc., is a daily gift to those trying to undermine him. What would otherwise be obvious to most people about the corruption of our government, especially the groundwork laid by the Obama administration, is getting lost because he is so freakin' divisive. That is why his questionable behavior, attacks on everyone, his inconsistent stances on so many fronts including foreign affairs are so disastrous. His lunacy is blowing any opportunity we have to break the grip of big business and big money on the country.
Can you elaborate and site specific examples on the bold?
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostRemove Trump from your equation..
Exactly and specifically what "opportunities " are you talking about.
List them..
- Using government agencies to eavesdrop on oppositional presidential campaigns during an election
- Raiding of attorney's office and use of client confidential information not relevant to an investigation to go after other criminal activities
-illegal leaking of confidential government information to undermine a sitting president
There are a host more and instead of recognizing the danger of all of these to our politics and government, regardless the party in charge, he is giving them fuel to justify what is happening. Even I wonder about his various positions and comments on Russia and why he is so reluctant to criticize them/Putin when he has no problem bashing other potential enemies as well as allies.
Before you suggest that Dems would have ignored anyway, look at how easily many of us on the right have been programmed to think Trump is actually a conservative much less a champion of conservative Christian values. He is closer to being a moderate Democrat than he is a conservative, yet there are people lamenting throughout these posts how he has exposed fake conservatives, blaming RINO's, etc. He's just playing to those who worship him the most.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostEasy. All that rhetoric, the childish behavior, stupid comments, the insensitivity he shows on so many social issues, etc., is a gift to the liberal media to fuel the anti-Trump hysteria and fears they peddle.
The liberal media helped elect Trump the first go round. And they are probably going to do it again.
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The only things in this world to keep me from voting Trump again is my death and Trump himself. So far he hasn't even come close to doing anything that would in any way change my mind. They may impeach him but that don't mean he's guilty of anything other than being a target for the liberal's hate as it stands right now. I pray the he will last at least until he gets done picking judges and especially another SCOTUS. So far he has been hitting homers in that field.
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The opposition party
just voted to legalize illegal alien voting
are pushing for open borders and full on socialism
openly call Trump supporters racist and Nazis on mainstream media daily
fight policies put in place by their lord and savior President Obama just because Trump is in control of them now
had government agents falsify information in order to start an investigation into an elected President
and heck, can't even agree to not hate Jewish people.
They aren't even pretending any more, there is no middle ground with them to meet at.
Yet, somehow Trump is the one dividing the country.
The mental gymnastics some of you are capable of are truly mind blowing. It's actually impressive.
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