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    #61
    I'm not really sure who would do a better job of managing the land as far as a fed vs. state thing. I'm generally more in favor of the states controlling matters inside of states and the federal govt having less reach. But, honestly I'm not educated enough on the issue to make a statement. What I do wish is that the federal govt would go after the likes of Al Sharpton and his 4 million in owed taxes with the same vigor that they have went after a free-grazing rancher. I'm not saying that Bundy shouldn't be held accountable, but I scratch my head at the way the Feds seem to operate as a whole when it comes to debt collection.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Big H View Post
      I am with jruss. Publicly funded property is not a constitutional or conservative staple. And I agree the states need to run the majority of public land.

      And the comment about being able to go enjoy/hunt national lands for free is false the correct word is prepaid.

      Many of the government programs only cost change per taxpayer. That is how they get them passed. But added together it turns into thousands every April for me.
      I really don't think we can make them understand

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        #63
        Originally posted by Ironman View Post
        I really think you are correct.
        Don't get me wrong I understand yalls view completely. I just can't with good concise go along with the feds owning 85% of anything.

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          #64
          America's Public Lands: Origin. History. Future

          The history of the development of public lands in the U.S. is interesting and amazing.

          Here's a link to the book in the title.



          "What happened to most of the original public lands?

          Two-thirds of the original 1.8 billion acres of public domain acquired by the United States were subsequently transferred to individuals, corporations and states. Other large areas were set aside for national parks and monuments, national forests, wildlife preserves and refuges, military lands, and
          federal reservations for Native American Tribes."

          Land grants to states occurred long ago.

          "Land Grants to States – Each new state that joined the
          Union gave up claim to federal public domain lands within
          its borders, but received large acreages of public domain in
          land grants. These were to be leased or sold by the state to
          help raise funds for public schools, colleges, universities and
          other public institutions in the state. Two types of federal
          land grants given to the new states were:

          Quantity grant lands, which the state had the right to select from the public domain within its boundaries, and designated school sections in each surveyed township.

          The acreages of public domain transferred to western states ranged from 2 million to 10 million acres, depending on the size of the state and the date of
          statehood. Over 77 million acres were transferred to the states for local schools, along with another 21.7 million for other public schools and institutions."

          Texas in 1844 submitted a treaty of annexation to the United States Congress. Under its terms, Texas would have given 175,000,000 acres of public land to the United States government and the United States would have assumed Texas's debts of $10,000,000. The United States Congress rejected the treaty on grounds that the Texas public domain was not worth $10,000,000. When Texas was annexed to the United States in 1845 by a joint resolution of Congress, Texas retained both its debts and its public land. Texas was the only state, other than the original 13 colonies, to enter the Union with control over its public land… Today, over 22.5 million acres of land remain in the Texas public domain."

          We are blessed that our forefathers had the wisdom to set aside public lands.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Old Bald Guy View Post
            Shouldn't we all be trying to figure out how to collect the 20 or so years worth of back grazing lease money Bundy refuses to pay us instead of making him out a hero?
            Why haven't anybody asked why GWH Bush or his father or Reagan didn't return all that BLM land back to their rightful own states?

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