So what’s next…

[SaltwaterSlick]

So…bucking the old, worn out 2 party system that has gotten us in the mess we are in now is part of the problem?

Yep... There's this Constitutional thing called the Electoral College that prevents that from happening. There are other reasons, but that one by itself is a brick wall-non-starter.

[TxMedic]

Yep... There's this Constitutional thing called the Electoral College that prevents that from happening. There are other reasons, but that one by itself is a brick wall-non-starter.

Abjectly false…https://www.aei.org/articles/third-p...0this%20system.

[tvc184]

So…bucking the old, worn out 2 party system that has gotten us in the mess we are in now is part of the problem?

No, it’s ignoring the obvious.

[TxMedic]

No, it’s ignoring the obvious.

Because the same ole same ole has worked out so well…it’s a really good thing that the patriots in 1776 didn’t have your attitude…we would still be worshiping a monarch in England.

[BowhunterB]

Because the same ole same ole has worked out so well…it’s a really good thing that the patriots in 1776 didn’t have your attitude…we would still be worshiping a monarch in England.

I agree, we need a change, but keep hearing it's not possible. Unfortunately, we're basically back to worshipping monarch's here these days. That's how they think it should be and are working toward.

[TxMedic]

I agree, we need a change, but keep hearing it's not possible. Unfortunately, we're basically back to worshipping monarch's here these days. That's how they think it should be and are working toward.

Finally! A realist and a patriotic spirit…the Repubs and Dems are all out for themselves at this point and it in no way benefits the American people! As long as we take the “oh well, we have to pick the lesser of two evils” we will be stuck in the same cess pool!

[tvc184]

Abjectly false…https://www.aei.org/articles/third-p...0this%20system.

Wrong again.

The electoral college allows for as many parties as anyone wants. As a matter of fact in any presidential election there might be 15 or more people on the ballots in the various states.

That doesn’t help the third party (which is in name only) win an election when it goes to the House if no candidate gets a clear majority. At best a third party could maybe win a state or two and lock up the electoral college.

So how many third party people have to be elected at the local level in order control the House vote? That assumes that the “third party” isn’t actually 4-5 different parties who likely don’t see eye to eye. We currently have the Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, Green Party, Alliance Party, etc.

Let me know when one of these rises to the top to control the House.

For now and the foreseeable future, no matter what article spins it, the Constitution in effect bars a third party. Not if words but in the reality of the constitutional tie breaker.

Even if you could convince every state to do away from the winner take all the most have now, all that would do is almost guarantee that no future candidate will ever get a clear majority and every election will go to the House.

It will take a change in the Constitution to overcome the current two party system.

When George Washington was first elected, there were 11 states.

When Thomas Jefferson became the third president, there were 16 states.

A third party seemed like a viable solution back then. Not today…

[Playa]

I agree, we need a change, but keep hearing it's not possible. Unfortunately, we're basically back to worshipping monarch's here these days. That's how they think it should be and are working toward.

We’ve morphed into more of Bureaucratic-Oligarchy…

[tvc184]

Finally! A realist and a patriotic spirit…the Repubs and Dems are all out for themselves at this point and it in no way benefits the American people! As long as we take the “oh well, we have to pick the lesser of two evils” we will be stuck in the same cess pool!

A patriotic spirit? Absolutely.

Realist? Not even close.

It has nothing to do with patriotism. If you took a poll on TBH probably close to 100% would like another candidate or another lesser of evils. Then we can have three people to choose from instead of two.

Just call a Constitutional Convention and get it done!!

We wouldn’t even need to get rid of the electoral college. Instead of the House breaking the tie, do it like almost every other race and go to a runoff of the top two vote getters.

I’ll wait for that to happen……

[SaltwaterSlick]

Terry, very well said and explained, but... I'm afraid you're wasting your breath...

[monsterspike]

We’ve morphed into more of Bureaucratic-Oligarchy…

You are getting there!
Dictatorship always follows. The SC just paved the way.

[Hogmauler]

The question needs to be what did Biden get to withdraw from the race. What kind of deal was cut. Will he resign and Kambula pardon Hunter. How much did the big guy get. When she looses the election does he resign so she can do that. They the Dems have a plan and are running it.

What bidumb got was that the status quo will continue. The Hur report won’t be released, questionable deals with China and Ukraine will go away. And most importantly @ his “legacy will be preserved”. Oh, and he’ll get his presidential library.

[WItoTX]

If you even think for one second that RFK would be a possible choice, you're part of the problem!

I mean Trump more or less promised RFK a spot in his cabinet. Hopefully its HHS, where RFK would shine, and I generally agree with his positions. I think he could shine there. And hopefully help prosecute Fauci.

[camoclad]

RFK puts as big a stick in their eye as Trumps. Maybe bigger.

That's all that matters at this point concerning the gov.